What Will A Week Of NE Do?

[wrktoomuch]

Curious if you guys think a week of strong NE will quickly push the Fluke out. I know any storm at the end of August on does it, but this isn't a storm. Hoping to try again when the wind allows, just don't want to take a day off work for nothing.

[tautog]

Main body of fluke will be pushed out past 100 feet. Snappers will largely empty out of the rivers.

[mike1010]

Originally Posted by tautog

Main body of fluke will be pushed out past 100 feet. Snappers will largely empty out of the rivers.

Not disputing, just trying to understand. The fluke are leaving because the water is too warm. The E wind is bringing cooler water in from offshore. Isn't it possible that the fluke will stay inshore longer with the cooling water? Thanks.

[Gerry Zagorski]

Fluke are leaving because it's time to leave. Happens every year like clockwork pretty much in spite of winds or water temps.... It's just what they do and part of their internal migration clocks.

East and NE winds usually blow the warmer and clearer waters in from the Gulfstream which runs along our continental shelf a hundred miles or so out. It does however temporarily churn up the water closer into shore and the bays because of rougher surf. Once given a few days to settle down, the water will generally be cleaner and warmer. I think that is way Captain Joe said the ling will probably not stick around... They like colder water.

Sustained and heavy South winds cause upwelling which brings the colder water on the ocean's bottom to the top. This is why sometimes in the middle of the summer the water along our beaches, which are usually warm, get too cold to swim in.

Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski

Fluke are leaving because it's time to leave. Happens every year like clockwork pretty much in spite of winds or water temps.... It's just what they do and part of their internal migration clocks.

East and NE winds usually blow the warmer and clearer waters in from the Gulfstream which runs along our continental shelf a hundred miles or so out. It does however temporarily churn up the water closer into shore and the bays because of rougher surf. Once given a few days to settle down, the water will generally be cleaner and warmer. I think that is way Captain Joe said the ling will probably not stick around... They like colder water.

Sustained and heavy South winds cause upwelling which brings the colder water on the ocean's bottom to the top. This is why sometimes in the middle of the summer the water along our beaches, which are usually warm, get too cold to swim in.

Serious question regarding the effects of south winds and colder water. Why don't north winds have the same impact on water temps as south winds do. Every day there are 4 tide changes. Half of each day the ocean currents are running south to north in our area (incoming tides) and north to south (outgoing tide) the other half of the day. If a south wind causes upwelling, I assume more so during outgoing tides when wind is against tide, why wouldn't a prevailing north wind cause the same upwelling during incoming tides. That's never seemed to be the case though as a north wind tends to have a positive impact on bottom fishing yet a south wind is the kiss of death. Never understood why a north wind wouldn't create the same conditions a south wind does just inverse of a south wind as far as tides are concerned.

Anyone care to explain.

[torchee]

Originally Posted by dakota560

Serious question regarding the effects of south winds and colder water. Why don't north winds have the same impact on water temps as south winds do. Every day there are 4 tide changes. Half of each day the ocean currents are running south to north in our area (incoming tides) and north to south (outgoing tide) the other half of the day. If a south wind causes upwelling, I assume more so during outgoing tides when wind is against tide, why wouldn't a prevailing north wind cause the same upwelling during incoming tides. That's never seemed to be the case though as a north wind tends to have a positive impact on bottom fishing yet a south wind is the kiss of death. Never understood why a north wind wouldn't create the same conditions a south wind does just inverse of a south wind as far as tides are concerned.

Anyone care to explain.

North of the Jersey Coast is land - when considering the near coastal water. So the wind is coming off of Connecticut and New England.When the wind comes south it is blowing off of hundreds of miles of water.

I'm sure a north wind makes upwelling, just not here in NJ where a Nort wind blows off the land.

[hookset]

A week if NE wind will put every 20-30 foot boat from AH down to MI in the mudhole looking for mahi when it lays down!

[Gerry Zagorski]

One thing for sure is that it will push a lot of cleaner water inshore. In fact, I can see the difference it's making already using my www.ripcharts.com service. Cleaner water is now 10 miles closer then it was on Friday.

[bunker dunker]

hopefully turn on the inshore Bluefin bite.

[torchee]

I bet the surf fishing rocks for a few days after.