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Old 05-22-2010, 05:47 PM
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Captain George from the Angler gave me a call this morning, was fishing at the Bug Light and he came across three small boats filling their coolers with fluke. George was close enough to the boats to speak with the guys and they have special hook and line permits issued back in 1991. They are allowed 400 pounds of fish daily, and were able to start fishing on May 2nd. George was not a happy camper and said he would post about this on Sunday. His complaint was more about getting the permits they were to be issued last year. Also the fact the Bug Light where we all love to fish was getting cleaned out with fish 14 inches and up. This should cause a little shit, I am sure. Will wait to hear from Captain George on Sunday..
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Old 05-22-2010, 05:50 PM
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WTF is that all about???????? Our government is crap!!
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Old 05-22-2010, 06:09 PM
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They are called pin hooking permits. They fall under the commercial category and there are a total of 10 issued in this state. They are not doing anything illegal just making a living. They also fall under the 14" a fish size limit. Not much you can do about it.
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Old 05-23-2010, 10:02 AM
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They are called pin hooking permits. They fall under the commercial category and there are a total of 10 issued in this state. They are not doing anything illegal just making a living. They also fall under the 14" a fish size limit. Not much you can do about it.
I say there is a lot we could do about it! post there pictures of the boats and we can get a fleet to do circles around them all day they won't catch any fish and we can say we were just crusing all day
our gov't at its finest!!
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Old 05-23-2010, 10:05 AM
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I say there is a lot we could do about it! post there pictures of the boats and we can get a fleet to do circles around them all day they won't catch any fish and we can say we were just crusing all day
our gov't at its finest!!
Wow, if you're serious that's scary. Why don't you go do circles around the draggers instead?
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Old 05-22-2010, 06:11 PM
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just did a quick search or two on google and found this - sorry for the outbound link gerry -

http://alpha1.msrc.sunysb.edu/MRAC/pages/Bv11n2s03.html

check it out - stats from the year 2000
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Old 05-22-2010, 07:01 PM
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I am friends with one of these fishermen. I can tell you that he works very hard for his money. And I can also tell you that he is not getting rich anytime soon from his work. What he is doing is simply trying to make a living, and a modest living at best. He doesn't make the rules however he does abide by them. If you don't like what he is doing, that's your call, but he is not doing anything illegal. As far as the 400 lbs a day, they are lucky if they come in with 100 lbs.

I am just curious to know why the Angler was there fishing for Fluke right next to these guys?

I know this reply won't be popular with most of the people on this site, but I am just telling it like it is.
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Old 05-22-2010, 07:22 PM
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Good Point Bird Chaser, I have a few friends that do it too. All are good people. I think it is human nature to get upset when someone can do something that you can't. Not much money to be made while doing this, I think its more of a grandfathered law. I have no problems with this type of fishing. It takes a lifetime to catch with a rod and reel what a dragger gets in one day!
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Old 05-22-2010, 07:31 PM
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I am friends with one of these fishermen. I can tell you that he works very hard for his money. And I can also tell you that he is not getting rich anytime soon from his work. What he is doing is simply trying to make a living, and a modest living at best. He doesn't make the rules however he does abide by them. If you don't like what he is doing, that's your call, but he is not doing anything illegal. As far as the 400 lbs a day, they are lucky if they come in with 100 lbs.

I am just curious to know why the Angler was there fishing for Fluke right next to these guys?

I know this reply won't be popular with most of the people on this site, but I am just telling it like it is.
I don't doubt these fisherman work hard to make a living. My issue is that the fisheries are a limited resource, they are not owned by any government, and I think that everyone should have the opportunity to fish at the same time. I have a problem with certain people being given an advantage as is the case here. Again, nothing against those pinhookers personally, I understand that are acting within the law.

What is the problem with the Angler catching and releasing fluke next to your friends? Maybe party boat captains work hard for a living too.

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Old 05-22-2010, 07:34 PM
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They were fishing a charity catch and release charter for underprivileged kids. Fluke are the easiest thing for these young novices to catch. Some must have been confused when the saw other boats keeping them as I am sure their families could use a few fillets.
 



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