73 million dollars ?

[AndyS]

Work is slated to begin in Seaside Heights and Park, said Steve Rochette, spokesman for the corps' Philadelphia District. The $73.5-million project includes dredging and placing 2.1 million cubic yards of sand onto the beaches from the Manasquan to Barnegat inlets.
Where is Elon Musk when you need him ???

[dales529]

While I agree beach replenishment is a joke are you talking about the same Elon Musk that has taken 15.4 billion in government subsidies since 2010?
Elon only cares about Elon and I give this Trump / Musk bromance less than 6 months to dissolve over power struggles and ego either way.

Its amazing how folks still think trickle down economics work

[Gerry Zagorski]

Originally Posted by dales529

While I agree beach replenishment is a joke are you talking about the same Elon Musk that has taken 15.4 billion in government subsidies since 2010?
Elon only cares about Elon and I give this Trump / Musk bromance less than 6 months to dissolve over power struggles and ego either way.

Its amazing how folks still think trickle down economics work

Elan went from obscurity the number one producer of electric cars manufacturers in the world and is based here in the good old US of A..

Yeah these guys and their egos run hot to an extreme but I think we need a bit more of that around here.

[Jigman13]

Beach replenishment should be investigated by the new department of government efficiency...I'm not 100% certain, but I think they'd accomplish way more installing jetties...

[reason162]

Originally Posted by dales529

While I agree beach replenishment is a joke are you talking about the same Elon Musk that has taken 15.4 billion in government subsidies since 2010?

Same Elon who is literally dismantling the federal oversight responsible for his many companies - talk about the fox guarding the henhouse.

[bunker dunker]

i think the beach thing is a bit much but as far as elon finding all this loose monies,why are none of the countries complaining only the politicians????if you are asking me were i want my tax money spent it is not in some other country
so they can make a childrens show or sending 10 mill worth of condoms to another country.this clean up is long over due.

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by bunker dunker

i think the beach thing is a bit much but as far as elon finding all this loose monies,why are none of the countries complaining only the politicians????if you are asking me were i want my tax money spent it is not in some other country
so they can make a childrens show or sending 10 mill worth of condoms to another country.this clean up is long over due.

Absolutely.
People cried for decades the government was wasting money.
Pretty much printing it to give away .

Yet who is crying the most.
Those serving the koolaid

If it was the other way around they would be hollering OH YEA instead of OH NO

[Broad Bill]

Originally Posted by bunker dunker

i think the beach thing is a bit much but as far as elon finding all this loose monies,why are none of the countries complaining only the politicians????if you are asking me were i want my tax money spent it is not in some other country
so they can make a childrens show or sending 10 mill worth of condoms to another country.this clean up is long over due.

Bunker, Gaza received $50 million for condom bombs, not $10 million. As an aside, I thought politics wasn't allowed on the forum as I've been tar and feathered for lesser comments. But since this thread was started I'll join in.

Anyone who thinks that government, federal, state and local, aren't the worst run institutions in the world, you haven't experienced or audited their levels of incompetency. Say what you wish about Elon Musk but if you're going to complain about potential negatives you should comment about the positive contributions of maybe the most intelligent person on the planet.

His net worth is over $400 billion, he employs over 150,000 employees worldwide and I'm sure he's paid more in taxes than his government subsidies and is no different than all other major industries who receive insane subsidies annually funded by your tax dollars. Do you really want to complain about what this man has and continues to accomplish for this world and the economic impact his businesses have had on our country. Research what the average pay is for his employees, they're not complaining. He works them hard but they are at the higher echelon in pay in this country and I don't see them complaining.

As far as DOGE, it's long overdue. The government is as corrupt and inefficient as it comes. America voted and wants change and this administration is delivering on that promise. As Dan and Bunker pointed out, why are the only people complaining Democrats. USAID represents a paltry seven tenths of one percent of the overall federal budget and look at the wasted spending uncovered within a week. The numbers we're going to see coming out will be nothing short of shocking. The corruption is being exposed and politicians, I'm sure both R's and D's, are concerned when these atrocities are exposed, their personal slush fund dries up and the average American finds out how their hard earned tax dollars have been being spent. This is long overdue and a significant part of what needs to happen to get the $37 trillion debt problem under control. The Country can't survive the way it's fiscally being run, it's an impossibility.

Read the attached article, COVID alone had over $400 billion in fraudulent claims processed or wasted or misspent funds! $400 BILLION wasted in much needed COVID relief!

https://apnews.com/article/pandemic-...4611344311ae78

FEMA paid $59 million to illegal immigrants to stay in luxury hotels while our own citizens impacted by the fires in LA and Hurricane Helene go homeless. Is this how you want the country run? It's not how I want my tax dollars being spent. We've all asked for accountability and transparency and now that it's happening why are people complaining?

And the latest news today is Trump's productive discussions with Zelenskyy requesting $500 BILLION in collateral in the form of mineral rights to collateralize past and future aid to Ukraine for the war. In other words, if this happens, Trump just converted all the funds the USA gave to Ukraine from aid to a collateralized loan to be repaid and in doing so saved the American taxpayer $500 billion of their hard earned tax dollars being spent abroad. Does anyone view this as anything but positive?

As far as dredging is concerned, same problem as always. Our esteemed government is addressing the results and not the cause. We'll be spending another $100 million ten years from now when the sand they're about to pump in gets washed out again no different than the Manasquan inlet. Absolute stupidity. Fix the cause and you fix the problem, Management 101.

[AndyS]

I'm having arguments about the "current administration" and losing funding for freshwater dam removal. I said yes, all Murphy cares about is concrete, asphalt and giving stuff away to inner city people. 2 seats go vacant on the F&G Council. I have seen Murphy talk very little about sportsmen, where as Christie Todd Whitman used to come to Efingers and buy sporting goods. I used the search icon on Murphy's FB page and typed in Raritan river and the only thing that came up was the NJ Transit bridge.

[dales529]

Nothing wrong with discussion and some good points made. I can only speak for myself and never questioned Elon's intelligence or his success or contributions to the better good. Not sure his very successful business model works for a society as a whole.

I give him credit for using taxpayer dollars as available to add to his business, any good businessman / women would. Not convinced on his tax structure / payments back, his workers yes pay taxes , him ??

Bring your Kid to work day in the oval office and make Trump smaller than him. As stated this bromance will be over soon. Trump going to side with him on wind and electric cars / energy? yeah sure.

Having said that tired of the hypocrisy / Kool aid references as the wasted spending in our Government is across both aisles for years on end yet the minions complain about each other rather than the failed governments from both parties for the last 50 years minimum.

While the intention of DOGE has some merit and is long overdue but what you are really seeing is potential cuts to the core services that a society with government overreach needs to survive as a whole for all the people. We are behind in education, the arts and sciences and health care but these are the targets LOL. Get out of NATO, WHO, control what the CDC can report, cut the Kennedy Center and take control of what it is, cut infrastucture in the USA.

Why not start with exposing the waste in congressional perks (both sides), salaries, unlimited health care, lobbying and campaign finance rules and congress manipulation of stocks in regular citizens 401K and investments that they control through policy based on their own investments. Its supposed to be a free service and honor to represent your country per the founding fathers not a billionaire club.

Yes add in cuts for non essential foreign aid ( not sure the condom thing is even real or Fema luxury hotel bs as neither has evidence) and cut the insane defense contracts waste / price gouging. But instead cut FEMA for disasters in states of the USA because they aren't aligned or didn't vote for you.

Let your son in law rebuild Gaza into a luxury resort / Put in the same tariffs that failed miserably the last term etc.

Guess we have different definitions of " drain the swamp"