New York Possible Fee Based Saltwater Fishing License Survey

[Tuna Tales]

Please note this is for New York - however since we are neighbors I am sure NJ will take notice.

Whatever side of this issue you are on - - it's just a FYI.

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We Need Your Opinion on a Recreational Saltwater Fishing License
New York State is exploring the potential for a fee-based saltwater fishing license to provide revenue to enhance recreational saltwater fishing and management.

Currently, 23 of the 26 U.S. coastal states have a fee-based saltwater license, however, there are many factors that must be considered if New York were to pursue a similar license - most importantly, feedback from anglers.

Your input matters! Anglers are encouraged to complete this short, anonymous survey as one of the first steps to help determine how New York could pursue a license. Your responses will help gauge interest in developing a recreational saltwater fishing license and provide information on how a potential license could be used to support fishing efforts important to you.

Please complete the online survey by Friday, September 29, 2023.
https://survey123.arcgis.com/share/2...e807c322605f04

We appreciate your time and value your feedback in further enhancing saltwater fishing experiences in New York’s marine waters. If you have any questions or additional comments about this survey, please email us at fw.marine@dec.ny.gov.



Joe T.

[bulletbob]

That money will go straight to the general fund to be used for the cities where the handout dependent voters are... Will they built free ramps in salt water zones?... Obtain more land on tidal waters and the ocean so fishermen can gain access?? No.. It will go into the pork barrel slush fund to buy votes from the city dwellers... Thats what NY does...

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by bulletbob

That money will go straight to the general fund to be used for the cities where the handout dependent voters are... Will they built free ramps in salt water zones?... Obtain more land on tidal waters and the ocean so fishermen can gain access?? No.. It will go into the pork barrel slush fund to buy votes from the city dwellers... Thats what NY does...

Having a salt water license opens up getting our share of the excise tax back . Those funds are dedicated only for access and fishing improvements .

Both NJ and NY don’t chase those funds because they can’t just put them into the general funds .

So while license fees can be manipulated, the other gains drastically enhance its value .

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Guys paying ridiculous ramp fees weekly would really benefit from the excise tax supporting those ramp fees etc .

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[Tuna Tales]

Bob:

I would have agreed with your statements 15 to 20 years ago but times have changed. I have not found any complaints or monies going to the general fund with the current 23 coastal states that have a paid saltwater license program. In fact, my Florida fishing friends say more good has come from it. New free boating ramps. More access etc.

Have you seen the cost to launch just one time at the Atlantic Highlands Municipal Boat Ramp? The ramp that has the real bad drop off at the end of it.

Look at Louisiana - some will say more corrput than New York. Huey Long territory. The paid license money goes to fisheries management - not the general fund.

From 2018: https://www.thefisherman.com/article...g/#close-modal

Recent articles:
https://www.proptalk.com/recreationa...ng-regulations

https://www.capegazette.com/article/...oney-go/256637

https://www.onthewater.com/where-doe...ing-revenue-go

Florida paid saltwater license:

What are my fees used for?
Except for the fees charged by the tax collector ($1.00) or agent ($0.50), and processing surcharges listed above, all of the money spent on fishing and licenses goes to the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC) to provide optimum sustained use of Florida's fish and wildlife resources. In addition, each license holder that buys a license, helps the FWC to recover excise taxes from the Federal government, which you spend on items such as fishing tackle, boats, and for motor boat fuel taxes, through the Federal Aid in Sportfish Restoration program.


Others will say we pay enough already in fees, tolls, taxes etc. OK - yes however look below with NOAA over estimating the data. We tried joining associations, Marching in DC, writing letters, donating at fishing events etc. Perhaps this paid license dedicated to fisheries in the state only would do all of us some good.

Would it be a perfect fix or answer - no. But keep doing the same thing year after year is the definition of insanity.

Again, I am not saying yes or no but perhaps it's worth considering.

Joe T.

[bulletbob]

I have no problem with a salt water license anywhere IF it goes to access/habitat improvement,, However, I have my doubts in NY's case.. I have lived in NY for 32 years, and lived in NJ for 37 years... NJ fisheries management is WAY better than NY, and I trust NJ DEC a lot more than NY... We have Hochul as gov here, and she is a rabid radical totalitarian leftist... She would do anything to get her hands on another revenue source, no matter where it comes from.. Believe me, salt water license or not in NY, guys will still be paying $100 to launch a boat on parts of LI. I think my friends here are bit naive' when it comes to NY politics... bob

[Dclark2]

If you believe that money collected will go to saltwater improvements you will believe in the TOOTH FAIRY...................

[NoLimit]

Originally Posted by bulletbob

I have no problem with a salt water license anywhere IF it goes to access/habitat improvement,, However, I have my doubts in NY's case.. I have lived in NY for 32 years, and lived in NJ for 37 years... NJ fisheries management is WAY better than NY, and I trust NJ DEC a lot more than NY... We have Hochul as gov here, and she is a rabid radical totalitarian leftist... She would do anything to get her hands on another revenue source, no matter where it comes from.. Believe me, salt water license or not in NY, guys will still be paying $100 to launch a boat on parts of LI. I think my friends here are bit naive' when it comes to NY politics... bob

They will actually use the money to hire more cronies at state universities to further shutdown fisheries

[mikdel]

Originally Posted by bulletbob

That money will go straight to the general fund to be used for the cities where the handout dependent voters are... Will they built free ramps in salt water zones?... Obtain more land on tidal waters and the ocean so fishermen can gain access?? No.. It will go into the pork barrel slush fund to buy votes from the city dwellers... Thats what NY does...

The handout dependent voters that live along the Jesey shore are grateful that the taxpayers money goes to replenishing their beaches over and over and over every year. Ya cant fool mother nature forever Ans some of that replenishing affects the fishing negatively in different ways. Catchem up.

[mikdel]

Originally Posted by bulletbob

That money will go straight to the general fund to be used for the cities where the handout dependent voters are... Will they built free ramps in salt water zones?... Obtain more land on tidal waters and the ocean so fishermen can gain access?? No.. It will go into the pork barrel slush fund to buy votes from the city dwellers... Thats what NY does...

The handout dependent voters that live along the Jesey shore are grateful that the taxpayers money goes to replenishing their beaches over and over and over every year. Ya cant fool mother nature forever Ans some of that replenishing affects the fishing negatively in different ways. Catchem up.

[Capt Sal]

Originally Posted by bulletbob

That money will go straight to the general fund to be used for the cities where the handout dependent voters are... Will they built free ramps in salt water zones?... Obtain more land on tidal waters and the ocean so fishermen can gain access?? No.. It will go into the pork barrel slush fund to buy votes from the city dwellers... Thats what NY does...

Exactly !! General fund. Charter and PB have pay a fee every year to fish in NY waters. NJ does not charge NY for hire boats. Go figure???