ASMF Striped Bass Regs- 2020

[WESTWIND]

Any word if the ASMFC striped bass regs of 28-35 in will be modified by NJ? 20-38 would be much more palatable and greatly aid the charter and head boats.

[dales529]

Originally Posted by WESTWIND

Any word if the ASMF striped bass regs of 28-35 in will be modified by NJ? 20-38 would be much more palatable and greatly aid the charter and head boats.

Striped bass proposals will be submitted by the state for technical review by the end of this month, with a decision by ASMFC in early February about which specific state proposals will be allowed. The NJ Marine Fisheries Council is looking at a potential special meeting in February for a final decision.

ASMFC approved an even 18% reduction in mortality for all
conservation equivalency proposals. With the below in mind:
In order to achieve the reduction in mortality, a larger reduction in
HARVEST is needed to account for dead discards. So keep that in mind as you see proposals, the state needs to reduce MORTALITY, which is the sum of
discards and harvest.

Have not seen any NJ proposals yet.

[1captainron]

Start bending over now Capt. Mike....do you really think for a minute anything is going to go in our favor?

[captmark]

Maybe if some of you went to either of the meetings you would know whats happening and you could voice your opinon instead your waiting for them to tell you what and what you can not catch, I love you guys that sit on the bench and bitch but dont spend any time to go and voice your opinon. The last NJ meeting, it was a shame that NO one from North of Manasquan was their. So I quess that some of us are ok with their Regs, sorry for me venting but its obvious some dont care..

[1captainron]

Originally Posted by captmark

Maybe if some of you went to either of the meetings you would know whats happening and you could voice your opinon instead your waiting for them to tell you what and what you can not catch, I love you guys that sit on the bench and bitch but dont spend any time to go and voice your opinon. The last NJ meeting, it was a shame that NO one from North of Manasquan was their. So I quess that some of us are ok with their Regs, sorry for me venting but its obvious some dont care..

Bullshit Mark...Rob from the Sea Hunter and Myself were at that last meeting. Don't tell me about sitting on the bench and not caring my friend.....All those trips to Washington while others Sailed. Selling frigging Hats & shirts in Atlantic city and all the sports shows trying to raise money for SSFFF. Meeting with Politicians and having to stomach their bullshit while they keep looking at their watch...have you ever done that? Get some facts straight before you go throwing stones at one of the MOST VOCAL people in this business....Have I voiced my opinion enough about this?

[dales529]

Lets face it most of us could attend more meetings than we do. I will say Capt Ron has supported ALL of my efforts for SSFFF and RFA NJ as well as serving on boards and being a vocal supporter of ALL recreational fisheries issues.
Lets not fight each other no matter what region of the state we fish from.
I wish that public comment meant more than it does and it wont until there is one opinion and one voice from the masses of recreational anglers. Sadly we don't have that yet. Whatever the NJ Fisheries council comes up with it will have to meet the harvest reduction and mortality rate @ 18% so don't expect much wiggle room.

Demanding "Slot fish" is a double edge sword as under the current MSA it is believed Slots in any species will increase harvest and mortality rates thus reducing bag and season length even though its not true in all instances.

Also getting a Slot doesn't mean you get that as an extra fish or 1 @ a slot and 1@ at current size. It could mean that's the only fish you get.

[reason162]

Originally Posted by 1captainron

Start bending over now Capt. Mike....do you really think for a minute anything is going to go in our favor?

Are you really not happy with a 28-35 slot? I'm sure NJ will find a way to kill a second and possibly 3rd fish, don't worry.

The original proposal was 1@35 but all the party/charter boats went apeshit.

I guess the losers are the Montauk fleet?

[1captainron]

Originally Posted by reason162

Are you really not happy with a 28-35 slot? I'm sure NJ will find a way to kill a second and possibly 3rd fish, don't worry.

The original proposal was 1@35 but all the party/charter boats went apeshit.

I guess the losers are the Montauk fleet?

After coming home from "That" meeting, my gut was telling me, no way in Hell we will see a 28-35 keeper. Let's hope I'm wrong.

[Gerry Zagorski]

Going to be interesting to see if the bonus program stays in effect. The reason we have this program in NJ is because we don't allow commercial fishing so the recreationals get that quota.

The other thing we face with Stripers is a catch 22 just like Fluke..... You lower the size limits so you're not harvesting the breeders and since the size limits are lower, they assume more fish will be kept...

The science is totally jacked as is MRIP, which is basically a bunch of garbage random survey data that's fed into an arbitrary formula to estimate recreational landings..

I think we can all agree on one thing... If you really care about the health of this or any other fishery, you need accurate data and assumptions in order to make the right decisions. Pretty obvious to me that the decisions made in the past are not working for us or the fish...

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by 1captainron

After coming home from "That" meeting, my gut was telling me, no way in Hell we will see a 28-35 keeper. Let's hope I'm wrong.

That is the size most of the state's pushed for long before NJ even got involved.
It is the size that makes most sense for the entire fishery .

But I'm sure there will plenty of complaints of guys crying releasing big fish over the slot.

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