Where the heck are the Fluke?

[Capt John]

According to my records of the past 15 years, Father's Day was always the start of some active (shorts and many keepers) Fluke, but this year, so far has been really tough. PB's and charters going after Ling, Whiting and Sea Bass....what the hell is going on here?

Curious to hear your thoughts on this. Are they still east of us? Cold water? Buried in the mud/sand? Moved north? Already at Fulton? What gives?

Slim pickin's to say the least. Care to weigh in?

[bulletbob]

The sea Bass boats are getting quite a few whiting, lots of Ling, and even a few Cod inshore in about 50-60 FOW, each report I see here... In all my years i can't recall good fluke fishing at the same time whiting were being caught inshore.. My vote is that the water is still cold.. That and a buck will get you 3/4 of a cup of gas station coffee.... bob

[reason162]

According to best avail science, the main body of fluke are shifting north due to climate change, along with BSB and everything else. I'm sure that's a controversial statement to many here...but it shouldn't be. It certainly fits what we're seeing.

But perhaps some southern species will take its place. Personally, I'm ready for some red drum in RB.

[bulletbob]

Originally Posted by reason162

According to best avail science, the main body of fluke are shifting north due to climate change, along with BSB and everything else. I'm sure that's a controversial statement to many here...but it shouldn't be. It certainly fits what we're seeing.

But perhaps some southern species will take its place. Personally, I'm ready for some red drum in RB.

Yeah, I don't buy that for a second. They simply don't show up some years, and its been that way since I was a kid. can't begin to say why that might be.. I remember lots of years back in the 60's and 70's where there were very few fluke... bob

[reason162]

Originally Posted by bulletbob

Yeah, I don't buy that for a second.

Bob, the scientists who sift through mountains of historical data, along with current catch data and tagging studies etc see a connection between rising temps and northward migrations...if that's true, it's true whether you buy it or not lol.

If you reject scientific conclusions out of hand, many things become mysterious. In this case, the disappearance of fluke from our local waters.

[Castaway]

Originally Posted by reason162

Bob, the scientists who sift through mountains of historical data, along with current catch data and tagging studies etc see a connection between rising temps and northward migrations...if that's true, it's true whether you buy it or not lol.

If you reject scientific conclusions out of hand, many things become mysterious. In this case, the disappearance of fluke from our local waters.

Would these happen to be the same scientists that have been telling us for years now that the seabass stocks are down?

[Canyonfish]

From many past discussions on this board alone over Fluke regulations regarding the season start, duration and stop ... given the choice of an early start in May or a later end in September many Fluke anglers preferred that the season end later since early catch size and frequency were spotty early compared to later when it got hot right when Fluke was going to close down.

Nothing scientific here, but in the many years of Fluking I have done in the waters in and around Sandy Hook ...... this has been the case.

The Fluke will show.....

[courbeco]

Originally Posted by Castaway

Would these happen to be the same scientists that have been telling us for years now that the seabass stocks are down?

They may be the same scientists that changed the "Global Warming" label to the current "Climate Change" label..... Climate change has nothing to do with the non-existing fluke bite. This isn't the first time fluking in June sucked....!

[Capt. Debbie]

But the water temp is COLDER than normal. Hows that work again?

No bluefish 2018. Many caught in No NJ bluefish 2019?

Originally Posted by reason162

Bob, the scientists who sift through mountains of historical data, along with current catch data and tagging studies etc see a connection between rising temps and northward migrations...if that's true, it's true whether you buy it or not lol.

If you reject scientific conclusions out of hand, many things become mysterious. In this case, the disappearance of fluke from our local waters.

[courbeco]

Originally Posted by reason162

According to best avail science, the main body of fluke are shifting north due to climate change, along with BSB and everything else. I'm sure that's a controversial statement to many here...but it shouldn't be. It certainly fits what we're seeing.

But perhaps some southern species will take its place. Personally, I'm ready for some red drum in RB.

I guess the numbers of fluke (Partyboat reports/Facebook pages) caught this weekend shutdown the BS "Climate Change" theory...….