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Party Fishing Vessel and Charter fishing vessels that carried more than 6 passengers --Businesses that have Gone Under in New Jersey (not replaced) since the Bad Reauthorizations of Magunson-Stevens in 1996 and 2006
Bayone-----------------------Bucky Perth Amboy----------------Sea Pigeon Leonardo---------------------Freddy C Highlands--------------------Crack-a-Dawn " "----------------------Eagle " "-----------------------Jersey Girl " "-----------------------Ranger Belmar-----------------------Catherine II " "-----------------------Mohawk Explorer " "-----------------------Mohawk IV " "-----------------------Eileen " "-----------------------Ginny Lynn " "-----------------------American Eagle Brielle------------------------Atlantis " "----------------------Capt Kel Point Pleasant-------------Norma KII " "----------------------Miss Norma K " "----------------------Deep Adventures III " "----------------------Deep Adventures IV " "----------------------Sea Devil " "----------------------Cock Robin Barnegat--------------------White Star " "----------------------Miss LBI " "----------------------Doris Mae " "----------------------Searcher " "----------------------Jersey Devil Atlantic City----------------Capt Applegate Sea Isle City----------------Capt Robbins " "----------------------Miss Ocean City Fortesque------------------Angler Cape May------------------Mid 90's: 29 party boats----Currently: 9 party boats During Same Years, new to the industry: Perth Amboy---------------Sea Hawk (for sale?) High Lands-----------------Dorthy B (transferred from NY) Pt Pleasnt------------------Voyager This is a count of 50, once viable businesses, that are gone for good (In NJ alone). This is NOT anecdotal information. These were US Coast Guard, federally documented vessels. NMFS wants us off the ocean --they have done a good job. Fisheries management has been hi-jacked by special interest groups that are making money by putting us out of business. They are penalizing fishermen on fish stocks that are rebuilt as high as 300%! Summer flounder biomass stock rose from 35.9 mil lbs in 1995, to 88.9 million lbs by 2014 (more than double) --this was achieved through our sacrifices --not fisheries management (who I've heard get paid $400 plus per-day, put up in a fancy hotel, all expenses paid, for their time at the meetings.) The Original intent of Magnunson Stevens was good: Increase fish stocks and maintain a viable fishing community through sound fisheries management. This is no longer the case. Fishing communities no longer matter. Above is only a list of larger recreational for-hire fishing charter and party boat businesses that have disappeared since the Magnunson-Stevens reauthorizations of 1996 and 2006. It does not include family run tackle shops and fishing marinas and boat rental marinas --and all the residual loss of business that has suffered under the inequity of these unfair fish rulings. And would be improbable to estimate the numbers of a whole generation of lower-income people who have given up -- or not even learned-- saltwater fishing due to the fact that the cost doesn't warrant --no chance of bring home dinner. Fisheries management has successfully divided and conquered fishermen; from Recreational vs Commercial, private boat vs for-hire boat, State against State, beach fishermen vs boat fishermen. All the while, the enviro-industry (and make no doubt, it is a money making industry) are laughing all the way to the bank. Behind doors, these same people are earnestly working to create Marine Sanctuaries to further restrict our..."Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness", (which was our unalienable right, spoken of in the Declaration of Independence). If you look at the lobbyist, Marine Fish Conservation Network, for example, you will see a wolf in sheep's skin; Pretending to be concerned about fishing communities. MFCN is on Capitol Hill, lobbying to put a stop to any bill that would introduce common sense flexibility into our fisheries management. 200 organizations are represented and many individuals contribute to the MFCN lobby business, thinking they are helping us, not realizing they are in truth, working against us. Other lobby groups with deep pockets: Environmental Defense Fund, PEW Trust Fund, PETA and many more. During this same 20 year period, marine estuaries (according to NOAA, 2/3 of all marine life begins in the estuary) continue to be built upon --and polluted into --and beach replenishment continues to ruin marine habitat by stealing sand from underwater hills and ridges and pumping into onto the beaches, only to get washed away during the next storm. (It's a shame that govt continues to use the tax money of hard working people to dump marine habitat onto the beaches, yet access for surf fishermen continues to be diminished.) It seems the enviro-industry has kept most quiet about this because I guess they are okay with replacing fishing communities with condos and sail boats. The Axe needs to be laid to the root. Magunson Stevens needs to be fixed --returned to its original intent. If our Fisheries Management Council is not going to stand up for our fishing communities, we must do our part by reaching our representatives. Send an email --make a call --use social media: facebook, twitter, ect. Information on how your rep can be reached has never been easier. You do not need to be eloquent, you don't need to be long winded, you only need to let your reps know how the fisheries system is broke and that Magnunson Stevens needs to be fixed before our fishing communities are solely given over to the elite. Support Bill HR 200 and HR 2023. Our Representatives in NJ and NY have been very quiet on these two bills --They need to wake up. I urge you to rattle their cage. If you fish, Please, "Do not go quietly into that good night." (T.Dylan) Join the Recreational Fishing Alliance (RFA) online. 1997 NJ Fishing Regs *2017 NJ Fishing Regs Italicized Summer flounder----35.9 mil lbs bio stock in 1995--------------88.9 mil lbs in 2014* 14.5", no close, 10 fish limit------------------------------ 18" May 25 - Sept 5 - 3 fish limit Black sea bass----stock rebuilt 229%---not overfished---overfishing not occurring* 9", no close, no limit----------------------------------- 13?" May 26--June 29 -10 fish limit July 1-Aug 31 -2 fish limit Oct 22-Dec 31 --5 fish limit Scup (Porgy)--------------stock rebuilt 300%+* No Size no close, no limit----------------- Proposal of 15 fish limit with closed seasons Winter Flounder 10" Mar 1-May 31, Sept 15-Dec 31 -no limit-------- 12" March 1-Dec 31 -2 fish limit Bluefish no size or close 10 fish limit----------------------------- no size or season 15 fish limit Weakfish 14" no close 14 fish limit---------------------------------- 14" no close 1 fish limit Tautog 13" no close no limit-------------------------------------- 15"Jan 1 -Feb 28 -4 fish limit April 1-April 30 -4 fish limit July 17-Nov 15 -1fish limit Nov 1-Dec 31 -6 fish limit Cod 19" no close no limit------------------------------------------ 21" no close no limit Striped bass 28", no close, 2 fish----------------------------------- Over 28" one fish, over 43" one fish River herring No size, no limit, no close---------------- Closed year round to recreational fishermen *Information retrieved from NMFS Capt Bob Bogan Party Boat Gambler Point Pleasant Beach, NJ
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Captain Bob Bogan Brand New 90 Foot Party Boat Gambler Sailing Daily From Point Pleasant Beach, NJ http://www.gamblerfishing.net captbogan@aol.com 732-295-7569 |
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Without a doubt the best composed and most compelling post I have seen on this topic yet. Backed w/ real data and timeline.
The best and only way I now of you can win this type of fight.....and some money. Which you cannot obtain without the former. you have motivated me capt. Thank you |
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Excellent post Bob. I was just comparing the quotas myself a few days ago and was saddened. I am also a member of the RFA, and have been for many years. Although well intended, I don't have confidence the RFA can do anything to change things. I'm still waiting for them to bump up the winter flounder quota. I just have given up hope that anything will change in the favor of the recreational fisherman.
And yet the discard of millions of pounds of by-catch continues from the commercials. Did the recs kill the ling, whiting, flounder, weakfish, etc. The only reason the blackfish are the last to go IMO is because the commercials cant drag for them as effectively (although the roller draggers certainly do damage). Thankfully, we got the pots off the reef. Regulators need to accurately account for commercial by-catch and come up with a solution that hinges the by-catch against their quota. This issue is the proverbial "Elephant in the Room" issue which no regulators will take issue on. I commend Norway for finally dealing with this issue this year by banning the discard of all bycatch, as they see it as unethical. Our story, the story of the recreational fishing community, will end just the way the hand line cod fisherman of New England did (unless changed).
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Add the Bandit (Belmar) to the list
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Add on top of that a Saltwater Registry also.
Can't vouch for all the boats, I think a few captains hit the age of retirement. |
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There is a lot of good info there. Eye opener for sure
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20 years ago, most of these businesses were passed down to the next generation. But I don't think I could do that to my kids, Andy
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Captain Bob Bogan Brand New 90 Foot Party Boat Gambler Sailing Daily From Point Pleasant Beach, NJ http://www.gamblerfishing.net captbogan@aol.com 732-295-7569 |
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I was just informed by one of my tackle dealers that there is an excise tax in NJ on fishing tackle made in the USA. He said he'd rather buy American made but that it's cheaper to buy from China because of the extra tax on Made in USA.
An excise tax is a tax that is often levied on "superfluous Items or unnecessary items"
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Captain Bob Bogan Brand New 90 Foot Party Boat Gambler Sailing Daily From Point Pleasant Beach, NJ http://www.gamblerfishing.net captbogan@aol.com 732-295-7569 |
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It is sad to see what was a large vibrant industry become what it is today. I remember summer nights looking out to sea and seeing a city made up of party boats night blue fishing. Unfortunately neither the democrats or republicans really care about the recreational fishing industry. Whatever party was or is in power has done nothing to save the recreational fishing industry here in NJ.
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We are not politically organized. Attending these public meetings in remote locations does nothing.
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