NJ Fishing Advertise Here at New Jersey's Number 1 Fishing Website!


Message Board


Releasing fish with Baratrauma - NJFishing.com Your Best Online Source for Fishing Information in New Jersey


Message Board Registration       FAQ

Go Back   NJFishing.com Your Best Online Source for Fishing Information in New Jersey > NJFishing.com Salt Water Fishing
FAQ Members List Calendar

NJFishing.com Salt Water Fishing Use this board to post all general salt water fishing information. Please use the appropriate boards below for all other information. General information about sailing times, charter availability and open boats trips can be found and should be posted in the open boat forum.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-21-2025, 09:30 AM
hammer4reel's Avatar
hammer4reel hammer4reel is offline
NJFishing.com Old Salt
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,387
Default Releasing fish with Baratrauma

Cant understand with so much emphasis on releasing big tog here and in many surrounding states . A deep drop depending device isn’t required on every boat .
Many states have done tagging and radio studies proving it’s extremely effective .

Instead of letting a fish lay on their side in a fish box , or in a net .
Seems using a descent release would get those big fish back with a better survival rate .

https://seaqualizer.com/product/seaq...ending-device/

Same with deeper caught sea bass every spring . Even Nj has done study’s showing at least venting a sea bass allows them to get down instead of floating on the top .
Takes only a second to vent a fish to hopefully allow it to recover to be caught another day .
I have seen days fishing for sea bass among boats with hundreds of short sea bass floating away .
IMO that’s just total disrespect of that fishery .
And if a boat can’t do what’s right for the fishery they shouldn’t be fishing for them .

.
__________________
Captain Dan Bias
Reelmusic IV

Fifty pound + , Striped Bass live release club
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-21-2025, 09:32 AM
hammer4reel's Avatar
hammer4reel hammer4reel is offline
NJFishing.com Old Salt
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,387
Default Re: Releasing fish with Baratrauma

Some great info here

https://returnemright.org/
__________________
Captain Dan Bias
Reelmusic IV

Fifty pound + , Striped Bass live release club
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-21-2025, 10:16 AM
Gerry Zagorski's Avatar
Gerry Zagorski Gerry Zagorski is offline
Owner NJFishing.com
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Edison, NJ
Posts: 11,403
Default Re: Releasing fish with Baratrauma

Brilliant!
__________________

Gerry Zagorski <><

Founder/Owner of NJFishing.com since 1997
Proud Supporter of Heroes on the Water
NJFishing@aol.com
Obsession
28 Carolina Classic
Sandy Hook Area
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-21-2025, 10:24 AM
Broad Bill Broad Bill is offline
NJFishing.com Ambassador
 
Join Date: Mar 2023
Posts: 681
Default Re: Releasing fish with Baratrauma

Dan I couldn't agree more with your post. And typically sticking what is essentially a gaff size hook in a fishes head won't promote survival. The regulations absolutely suck forcing recs to waste the resource but there's also a responsibility we have to protect the resource in spite of the regulations and the absolute carnage caused by commercial operations.

This off course is my opinion, hope I'm allowed to voice it here. If not, anyone is welcomed to pm me and we can further discuss.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-21-2025, 10:35 AM
hammer4reel's Avatar
hammer4reel hammer4reel is offline
NJFishing.com Old Salt
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,387
Default Re: Releasing fish with Baratrauma

Quote:
Originally Posted by Broad Bill View Post
Dan I couldn't agree more with your post. And typically sticking what is essentially a gaff size hook in a fishes head won't promote survival. The regulations absolutely suck forcing recs to waste the resource but there's also a responsibility we have to protect the resource in spite of the regulations and the absolute carnage caused by commercial operations.

This off course is my opinion, hope I'm allowed to voice it here. If not, anyone is welcomed to pm me and we can further discuss.
Before the device I posted was available boats in Alaska did use a weight with a large hook as the descent device for rockfish not being kept , especially yellow eyes .
They claimed the survival rate was extremely high from tagging studies .

I talked here to the person from FG that did sea bass study’s here .
He said survival rate venting sea bass was extremely high .

So why not require its use on any fish being released .

.
__________________
Captain Dan Bias
Reelmusic IV

Fifty pound + , Striped Bass live release club

Last edited by hammer4reel; 01-21-2025 at 10:48 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-21-2025, 10:52 AM
Broad Bill Broad Bill is offline
NJFishing.com Ambassador
 
Join Date: Mar 2023
Posts: 681
Default Re: Releasing fish with Baratrauma

Dan in my opinion it's no different than mandatory use of circle hooks. If devices promote survival, mandate them. I'm sure they're less expensive than the cost associated with not using them and protects trophy fish which deserve better than being stuffed with crab meat. I've been on many of those offshore sea bass trips and the waste is off the charts. If we're no different than the commercial sector with discard mortality rates especially in the winter with deep drop fisheries, we lose our right to complain about what's happening to one fishery after another.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-21-2025, 10:53 AM
hammer4reel's Avatar
hammer4reel hammer4reel is offline
NJFishing.com Old Salt
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,387
Default Re: Releasing fish with Baratrauma

https://youtu.be/ZqBEPBdbqJg?si=o9CLcomXEfKwk3ta
__________________
Captain Dan Bias
Reelmusic IV

Fifty pound + , Striped Bass live release club
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-21-2025, 11:37 AM
Broad Bill Broad Bill is offline
NJFishing.com Ambassador
 
Join Date: Mar 2023
Posts: 681
Default Re: Releasing fish with Baratrauma

Dan I've seen it used, as Gerry said it's brilliant but only if used. Party and private boats should be mandated to have them on board. It benefits the fishery, their livelihoods and recreational interests. Every fish killed represents hundreds of thousands if not millions of eggs potentially taken out of circulation.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-21-2025, 01:21 PM
Gerry Zagorski's Avatar
Gerry Zagorski Gerry Zagorski is offline
Owner NJFishing.com
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Edison, NJ
Posts: 11,403
Default Re: Releasing fish with Baratrauma

Quote:
Originally Posted by Broad Bill View Post
Dan I've seen it used, as Gerry said it's brilliant but only if used. Party and private boats should be mandated to have them on board. It benefits the fishery, their livelihoods and recreational interests. Every fish killed represents hundreds of thousands if not millions of eggs potentially taken out of circulation.
While I feel these sorts of devices are beneficial, not sure I agree if it should be mandated since the last thing we need is more mandates. I do however think it would be appropriate to educate people that these devices are available and encourage their use.
__________________

Gerry Zagorski <><

Founder/Owner of NJFishing.com since 1997
Proud Supporter of Heroes on the Water
NJFishing@aol.com
Obsession
28 Carolina Classic
Sandy Hook Area
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-21-2025, 01:54 PM
hammer4reel's Avatar
hammer4reel hammer4reel is offline
NJFishing.com Old Salt
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,387
Default Re: Releasing fish with Baratrauma

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski View Post
While I feel these sorts of devices are beneficial, not sure I agree if it should be mandated since the last thing we need is more mandates. I do however think it would be appropriate to educate people that these devices are available and encourage their use.
I disagree , go out to the deep water reef in the spring and watch how many short floaters you see out there because guys are LAZY.

Oh it’s too much work for a head boat , which are the first ones to bitch there isn’t anything to fish for .

Add up the losses everyday for the spring season , it probably exceeds the number of fish kept .


Already states mandating these devices are used for many years already , no reason for NJ to not join those PROTECTING their fisheries . Instead of being more concerned with an inconvenience.

.

.
__________________
Captain Dan Bias
Reelmusic IV

Fifty pound + , Striped Bass live release club

Last edited by hammer4reel; 01-21-2025 at 02:44 PM..
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.