Quality trolling Reel and Rod for Braid?

[Irish Jigger]

I have finally decided to give this a shot since the Wire is getting to be bit tough on a few people i fish with. I will still use them for spoons unless i really like this braid option. My question is what kind of rod and reel set up is a good choice for trolling umbrellas, shad rigs, and spoons. I am not looking to break the bank so if someone has a few set ups they want to get rid of let me know. Thanks in advance for the responses!!!!!!!!!

[Gerry Zagorski]

Have not shopped for Bunker Spoon rods in a while so don't have a specific reccomendation, but I'm sure some of our tackle sponsors will..

In any event the article I wrote below describes the kind of rod you are looking for specifically for spoons and wire or braid. Hope this helps.

Trolling Bunker Spoons – Size Does Matter

Trolling bunker spoons is one of the few areas in life where size really does matter. Rod size that is ….. A 5 or 6 foot rod is fine for wire line trolling tubes, umbrella rigs, plugs and parachute rigs but you definitely need to go longer for trolling Bunker Spoons. It’s the action of the long soft bouncing tip that transfers to the spoons through the wire that give them the action they need to trigger strikes. A short pole on the other hand typically has little bounce and the bounce is well…..short.

If you ever saw a pole made especially for Bunker spoons you'd see what I mean. The poles are usually 7 to 8 feet long and have a soft tip. When the spoons are working right the tip bends a foot or so during each pulse. Every once and a while (say 10-15 secs) you will get a long deep 2 foot bend. This happens when the spoon changes direction and often times is what triggers a strike. It's the give and take of the rod tip pulsing and snapping back that gives the spoon the needed action. The reason you troll with wire instead of mono is 2 fold 1) it runs deeper then mono line because of its weight and lower diameter. 2) and more importantly, wire has no stretch so it transfers the action of the pole tip to the spoon more effectively then mono.

A few other tips.... Every once and a while take the boat out of gear and let the spoon flutter down in the water column a bit. This change in motion often triggers strikes. We were out on the Shrewsbury rocks one time trolling for hours with out a bump. Tried this and were hooked up on both rods almost immediately. Another tip is to make sure the spoon is working correctly. Too fast a troll and the spoon will simply turn in circles. Too slow and you get hung up on the bottom and the rod tip will not bounce/bend. There are 2 ways you can tell if you’re trolling the right speed. One is to troll the spoon right beside the boat and make sure it's not spinning. The other is to watch the rod tip. If you have a fast steady continuos pulse of the tip your spoon is most likely just spinning in circles. Your should have a somewhat slow pulse of the rod tip with an intermittent deep bend as mentioned above.

Lastly, you can't just set the RPMs and troll in the same direction in a straight line. Wind and current as well as the direction your trolling will effect how the spoons run. You must make speed adjustments by watching the rod tip for the correct action. You should also troll in a lazy S pattern and in different directions to see what is working best. One day we were trolling Round Shoal and the only time we where catching fish is when we were running with the tide.

Spoons are one of the more difficult things to troll correctly. What worked yesterday might not work today. They might not produce the quantity of a Shad or Tube Umbrella rig, they do however consistently catch bigger fish if worked properly.

Hang on a sec..... I think I hear my drag screaming.......

[JerseyHooker.Com]

Our go to set-ups is a Daiwa Saltist 50H or a Shimano Tekota 800 with Tsunami Trophy TSTBC-761HW, 300 yards of Tony Maja metered braid, 30' of #80 top shop and a ball bearing swivel.... Cost about $350

Umbrella Rigs ( we have a trick )
Stretch Plugs
Large Spoons

Stop in or give me a buzz we spend at least 50 days a season targeting stripers by every means possible ... We have this down and have a bunch of pointers ...



Good Luck

[JerseyHooker.Com]

I believe we have one already set up with a Shimano Tekota 800 ready to fish

[MrAC1980]

Hey Rich, the only thing I didn't like about the Saltist is trying to get the 80lb mono knot through the thin levelwind, even using an albright(?) knot. Maybe on Sunday if/when I stop down you can show me your setup.