New York Fluke

[penn50w]

New York State Summer Flounder Closure

Effective 12:00 a.m. on Thursday, November 1, 2018, the commercial summer flounder (fluke) fishery is closed. This is a scheduled closure previously determined through public meetings with commercial fishermen earlier this year. This closure will remain in effect until further notice.

So keep on wondering why there is NO FLUKE come next season when you get no more fish added to the limit and need to raise the minimum size or lose another fish!

[hammer4reel]

The word through the commercial guys going to the meetings is they are going to take quota away from NJ and give it to other states this year.
If guys from NJ don't start making meetings the squeeky wheels attending from other states are gong to get their way

Originally Posted by penn50w

New York State Summer Flounder Closure

Effective 12:00 a.m. on Thursday, November 1, 2018, the commercial summer flounder (fluke) fishery is closed. This is a scheduled closure previously determined through public meetings with commercial fishermen earlier this year. This closure will remain in effect until further notice.

So keep on wondering why there is NO FLUKE come next season when you get no more fish added to the limit and need to raise the minimum size or lose another fish!

Penn don't understand your logic here so help me out. For the last twenty years, possession limits have been slashed and size limits increased without a commercial closure in NY on 11/1. What leads you to believe one has anything to do with the other? In my opinion it's exactly what needs to be done but too late. These stocks can't get pounded year round which is precisely what's happening especially during their spawn.

Dan if NY or any other state is the beneficiary next year of a quota transfer from NJ for any reason, there should be a mutiny by recreational anglers, party and for hire charter boats and affiliated businesses dependent on the resource.

If the season is closed it should be closed for both recreational and commercial, why one and not the other. And as I've posted before legislation needs to be passed closing harvest to commercial up and down the coast in September in sync with the recreational closure to protect the annual spawn based on the following facts:

Reproduction:
Both males and females become sexually mature at the age of 3. The fecundity (number of eggs produced in a single spawning season) of females increases with size and weight. A 14 inch female produces about 460,000, and a 27 inch female about 4,200,000 eggs in a season. Reproduction takes place in the fall, as soon as the fish begin migrating to wintering grounds. Peak spawning activity occurs from early September through early November in water temperatures of 53 to 66 degrees F and at depths of 60 to 160 feet. The center of spawning activity occurs off the coasts of New York and New Jersey with less concentrated activity occurring in southern New England waters. The eggs float in the water column, hatching 72 to 75 hours after being laid.

Size regulations and commercial winter harvest are destroying this fishery, not a NY closure for commercial guys in NY on 11/1. Secretary of Commerce, NMFS, ASMFC have a very short sided perspective to this and every other fishery. It's all about money without focus on the future of the fishery they're being tasked to manage. Maybe one of the brilliant committee members can tell us how moving quotas around addresses the overall problem of natural reproduction being down 80% on a relative basis over the last 25 years. The incompetence involved here is staggering.