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Old 11-30-2009, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: Ssfff To Challenge Mrfss Landings Data

Sorry, I accidentally copied over part of my response.

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Originally Posted by Kensdock
Most of recreational anglers agree if there is to be a mistake with the quota/survey they would like it to fall on the conservation side.
As pertains to the quota I would agree with you. And, if you knew anything about how the quotas are set you would know that there are already several levels of conservatism built into the quota setting process.

As to the survey (do you even know the difference? Do you even know what MRFSS is?) there is no such thing as a survey mistake that is conservative or liberal. There is only accurate or inaccurate. If a survey is biased on the high side it is not conservative. On the contrary, it has the opposite effect and creates a picture of both landings and the stock that is negative.

Most people I know, when faced with a question or issue pertaining to a topic they do not understand or of which they have little or no knowledge would first seek to better understand the issue or educate themselves on the topic before suggesting a course of action, response or assuming to know the answer.

You, however, have taken the opposite approach. You make statements of supposed fact when in reality you have none (facts that is) and have clearly little or no knowledge of the topic.

While I'm sure it is nice and cozy under that blanket of ignorance, sooner or later you'll need to come up for air.

I also noticed that you STILL did not answer my questions, despite posting them twice. You responded to the original topic (which you obviously did not fully comprehend) but you completely avoided responding to the questions based on your ridiculous assertions about landings.
So, I will ask yet again and await your response.
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Originally Posted by CaptTB
I notice you still have not commented on the numbers posted. So Ken, how realistic are your numbers? Not what you caught personally, but your "estimates" that were derived from your "research" as you put it?

Is it realistic to think that Fluke fishermen in NJ caught the equivalent of the entire Fluke biomass in one season? Is it realistic to assume, as you did, that NJ recreational fishermen landed more fish (your 10% at 250lbs) than the entire coastal quota for both recreational and commercial combined?
Is it realistic to think that NJ recreational fishermen caught more fish (cutting your numbers in HALF) than the entire recreational sector on the eastern seaboard?
Well?