That does sound disappointing. Is there trail access from ramapo reservation? As much as I think public access to all resources should be law, I understand why places get shut down. The public has an element that doesn't take care of the area in a way that makes others willing to accept visitors. When I lived in MA every body of water has to have some form of public access and NY at least what I've seen in the adirondacks is a focus on preserving/expanding public access. We need to preserve public access because without it I will have to start being more of a salt water fisherman
