Worst Mate Ever!! Captain ?
 

My son Chartered a Sponsor Boat out of PP for a group of my friends to celebrate my birthday. To say that I was appalled by what transpired is putting it mildly. I have chartered many of fishing trips from NJ to Florida and have never seen such a lack of customer service in all my 58 years. For starters we told him that out of the 13 guys only 5 of us had any experience black fishing the rest were complete novices. That being said I would have expected the mate to help these guys out as best as possible but that was not the case. We were left to have my son tie rigs for those who broke off with my rigs, unhook our fish, measure our fish, never helped these guys to get snags out and the final straw was after he filleted our fish he handed us bags and said here you go split them up. So you may ask what did he do all day He and the Capt FISHED for themselves all day. We boated 26 fish they had 14 of which they gave us 2 and kept the rest for themselves. In all my years I have never experienced anything like this. To add insult to injury we had bought a bushel of white leggers from the capt. They were the size of keeper blue claws only to find out later that the capt had smaller ones for his use and only offered them to us after we went threw our bushel for I think it was $15 a doz. At the end of the day I let the mate and capt know I was extremely unhappy and their answer was basically Kiss my A**

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You didn't even give a name so I'm left trying to figure out the point of this thread...

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My crystal ball is broken.
Give us a clue so we don't make that same mistake.
Thanks

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This site turns into a melee when people name the boat. PM him if you want to know the name before it turns into a mess of a thead.

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With the kiss my ass at the end, you should post the name of the boat there are plenty of places to post it besides here.go for it.

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But why waste your time and money, plenty of great boats to go on, one comes to mind the lady m five star boat captian and crew, and they catch fish

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I did not book the boat my son did. I would have much rather have fish with Jerry on the Monger but unfortunately he was booked. But I can tell you this much I will Book next years trip with Jerry tomorrow.

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Wow.. That sucks!

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Post some pics taken of the trip , no need to name the vessel.;)

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Did you complain to the captain telling him how he and his crew sucked? You should.

If so what did they say?

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"At the end of the day I let the mate and capt know I was extremely unhappy and their answer was basically Kiss my A**"
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I dunno, never been a fan of mates fishing , especially on a charter,but hey, I could be wrong. they love to fish I realize that. Just doesn't look right sometimes, when a mate is fishing and the fares are tangled up, or waiting for help with writhing pout hanging off their hooks unattended.... bob

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That sounds like a terrible trip. You must have a lot of patience because I would have blown my stack as soon as the mate didn't attend to customers and not waited to the end to complain. The mate and captain would have known about it and I would have explained if they didn't do what they were supposed to I wouldn't pay them. You have rights as a consumer. Any good charter takes a small deposit then settles up with you at the end of the day. Did you pay in full ahead or at the end of the day? I'm also hoping you didn't tip the mate.

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There are a few boats like this out there...they just don't give a crap...they have enough returning customers that they don't need to make 'you' happy...pretty sad if you ask me.

These guys need to know that word is spreading of their unprofessional behavior and I'm glad you posted this, I'll be sending you a pm to get the name so I can spread the word to anyone that talks about going on a charter boat to me.

There are plenty of stand up captains and mates that could use our business so we need to start holding these 'other guys' accountable.

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I am curious also as to whether the mate had his hand out looking for a tip?

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Sent a PM , please send me the name of the boat

GDubs-:cool:

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I was on a party boat years ago for tog. I was missing every bite. The mate, now the Captain of that boat, dropped on top of me and repeated" what theres no fish here" Quickly landed three fish while
Repeating the insult. Boxed up his fish and left as fast as he came. I spent the next two hours biteless. To this day if he' s the only boat sailing, I'll go home

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Thread is useless without the name of the boat posted

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WOW! It is hard to believe that in this day and age there is a charter boat out there with a Capt. and mate stupid enough to exhibit this type of behavior with total disregard for his paying clients. A Capt's job is to keep you safe and put you on the fish. A mates job is to help you "the client" catch the fish imo.

I wasn't there, but if it went down like you said it would be hard for me to bite my tongue and not let others know what charter boat it was.

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Kiss my ass is fisherman speak for "Post my Name" so no one else makes that same mistake.

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You should have told the Captain and Mate that they were chipping in for the fare and your son was getting the tip

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not like there are alot of sponsor boats that can charter that big a party out of Point.
pretty easy to pick which boats it could have been

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I think I got it

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3 pages later and this thread is still USELESS. Either post the name so people are warned, and hopefully the captain SEES it, makes it right for you and does the right thing, or stop whining about your bad experience. Yelp works for a reason, people post the name of the establishment theyre reviewing.

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Guys...he can't post the name of the boat, we've gone through this plenty of times. This post is absolutely not useless. Like said pretty easy to figure out or send a pm. Probably worth posting elsewhere too. If it's a one time thing maybe some fear of loosing business will shape them up and if it's a repeat offense their business deserves to suffer.

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So let's assume it was as bad as you said, why would you wait until the end of the trip to tell them off? Once you saw this going on and became frustrated, why wouldn't you just pull the captain aside and voice your displeasure about the mate and crabs? You likely would have changed things and saved your trip.

I'm asking because as others have said, it seems obvious who you were with and many of us here fish there regularly and consistently have good experiences. There may be another side to the story. Or maybe I'm misreading the clues and have not figured out the boat.....

RC.

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WOW... mate AND captain fishing. so they get a great day out fishing/catching/keeping and YOU are paying for it. that's shameful. i own a service business myself, and when you get hired by a customer, you SERVE their needs - not your own.

3 possible scenarios on a chartered trip, IMO...

#1- great service - let people know who it was!
#2- mediocre service - write it off and consider someone else next time.
#3- horrible service - let people know who it was!

i understand the conflict of interest in that the charter business a site sponsor, so perhaps the best responses to this post were by jerseyhunter and nolimit!

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Options here:

1. Name the sponsor boat = thread gets deleted ASAP
2. Don't name the boat = people guessing which boat and possibly wrong boat being blamed (especially since it's clearly not a 6 pack)

If there was any a case for a moderator to delete a thread I think we have one here. Nothing good can come out of this.

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As the true worst mate ever, I am offended.:D

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I used to fish a little when i mated. But as soon as there was an issue i put down my rod and took care of it. And any fish i got went to the customers unless they were at their limit.

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If this were my charter, plain and simple, I would have addressed the Captain and the mate would have got zero! Never heard of a mate fishing on a charter perhaps on a party boat! Might be 2 sides of this story but no mate will ever get a dime from me or my buddies when he fishes and has the gall to keep the fish he catches on my dime! Again, not sure of all the details!

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Capt. and mate should have given some help with blackfishing technique ,very rude to be mugging fish from paying customers, only leave a tip based on quality of service,No service equals no tip,.Maybe charter boats should post the type of service that will be given and the type of behavior that is expected of its charter clients.I had a few bad experiences and lots of great ones,I feel the web sites offer some level of accountability .The worst was when a NS boat captain told me "you are only paying for the boat ride back",and another after losing a rig the mate handed me a box of hooks and continued texting.

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if you want to know who it is pm the poster...he already told me who it is cause I wanted to know and I asked. I asked because I don't want to ever give them any business and so that I make sure my friends don't give them business either. pretty simple.

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i would not condemn any capt. or mate based on one bad post,if you are in the position to charter a boat maybe you should have a list of what you expect and the type of service you will require based on the ability of the charter guests.I think the charter organizer should be clear and precise as to what they are willing to pay for.Just saying for future charters

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What did the captain say about the trip?

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Aside: sometimes when the mate and/or Capt fish... they help you-the charter fill your limits because it's slow, and/or not all can get the code right to be dialed in to catch the boat limit, if personally go home with MEAT than just go home saying I had bites but couldn't get them hooked, after 12 secured fillets for each fare, then I would say something... as for the bait, that's a whole other story, not sure what's that about... live and learn- tight lines forever!

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I know I am a new guy here as far as posts go, but like many, I've been lurking for a while.

This site is well run, respected within the fishing community, and a plethora of information. It has sponsors from marinas, 6 packs, party boats, tackle stores, the list goes on.

I get that having sponsors is necessary to the survival of the site. But I also don't get why there should be preferential treatment towards them, unless its an agreement between the sponsors and Gerry which does not tolerate naming a sponsor boat? I don't know...

There are always 2 sides of a story, and somewhere in between is the truth. We can all PM the OP and ask him for the name of the boat. I've fished with sponsor boats, and I've formed my opinions on whether I'd go with them again, despite what anyone else has to say about them.

So why can't this be handled in "manly" fashion? Call out the boat, captain, and mate, and let them tell their side of the story, and allow people to make their decisions from that?

When someone has a great trip and they post about it and give the name, that seems to be acceptable. But if someone had a bad trip with these guys? They not "allowed" to say something negative?

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The site has rules and there are enough websites - like Yelp out there that if the poster truly wanted to get the word out about poor service he would post it there.

2 sides to every story.

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Thanks for the compliment on the site Humanzee.

As you all might imagine, it's a very fine balance here between viewer and sponsor interests. Unlike sites like Trip Advisor or Yelp, I rely solely on sponsor dollars to support this site.

As far as handling things in a "manly" fashion, all that goes away when it comes to the internet and I'm guilty of it myself. You sometimes say things online you might otherwise not have said if you were standing in front of someone. The anonymity is another thing... People know who our sponsors are because when they post here their business name and website addresses are posted. Not true of all of us that contribute here. That's why one of my general rules is if you are going to call someone out here by name then you should publish your name too. That's only fair right?......

The other thing is I don't want these sorts of posts to dominate the site and act as a lighteng rod followed by a shit show with emotions and people taking sides and dividing us. That's why I take down the political posts... Great for traffic but not the sort of traffic I want this site to be noted for. I also don't want to be responsible for ruining someone's business (sponsor or otherwise) by allowing this sort of stuff on the site... If their normal way of doing business is as bad as one post seems to portray it, the word is going to get out and they won't be around for very long anyhow.

And yes, there are 2 sides to every story and for some of the reasons mentioned above, I'd rather not have them aired here.

You might not like it but I figured you'd at least appreciate and respect my perspective on these sorts of things.

Thanks guys.... Back to fishing and positive stuff...

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Well said, sir. I get it. And I agree.

See, I'm manly enough to admit when my perception is wrong. Then again, I'm divorced, so lotta good that did me! :)