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HighHook94 08-04-2016 02:31 PM

Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
So everybody has been hyping the gulp 6 inch grub for fluke. Seems like it's been putting a lot of keepers in other ppls boats. I fish in the ocean in 50-75 feet of water with bucktails and do okay. So I bought some grubs in nuclear chicken, white, pink, and glow. When I tried putting these on my bucktail, I was either getting shorts on my top hook, where I had a 5 inch white swimming mullet, or getting the tail of my 6 inch grub bitten off. I lost almost 10 grubs in one trip because of this. I know these 6 inch grubs catch fish, because I've seen ppl on other boats catching with these. I try to vary my jigging to see what works. Sometimes I try the John skinner type of fast jigging, and other times I'll try a slower bounce. I keep the bucktail around 6 inches above the bottom. And I know I'm fishing in productive areas. I just think it's my technique. Any help would be much appreciated. What do you guys do to get keeper fluke in the boat?

WhaleFart 08-04-2016 02:41 PM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
Hey bud,

I can give my insight on this... When fishing the grubs I do it a few ways depending on my set up, drift speed, and action.

Option 1, fish the grub solo on a long shank hook jig head or buck tail, so the hook is coming out 1/2 inch away from where the curly tail starts. You will miss a lot less short hits.

Option 2, fish the grub on the high hook and leave the bucktail for a smaller gulp or strip. I noticed a lot of bigger fish but I also feed the hook down a good amount so again it's within 1/2 inch from the curly tail.

Option 3, I shorten the grub by about 1 inch with a simple cut. This allows me to fish it on smaller jigs.

I've caught a lot of big fish on these grubs, sometimes adding a strip of meat helps the bite but I've always liked fishing it plain and simple with a lot of action. I noticed it works far better in the ocean then in the bay. However I've landed quite a few stripers on the jig and grub in the back bay.

Good luck hope this helps

MrAC1980 08-04-2016 02:53 PM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
Next time use a stinger hook either tied off the eye of the first hook or off the loop of the hook and you might do better. ;)

bunker dunker 08-04-2016 02:59 PM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
stinger hook is the answer as stated above.

HighHook94 08-04-2016 03:07 PM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
I figured a decent fluke would take that grub down pretty quick, but next time I'm going to try a stinger hook or shorten the grub. I appreciate the responses guys. Also, do you guys bother using a teaser or just use a jig? If you do use a teaser, do you put a 6 inch on top also?

MrAC1980 08-04-2016 03:27 PM

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Typically yes they do inhale the whole grub, but this year they have been just nipping at the ends, its like they are biting out of instinct versus actually being hungry and wanting it. Even up in MA its been the same way. And yes use a teaser like a foot above the bucktail with either a hair teaser and bait or gulp also with a stinger!

HighHook94 08-04-2016 03:31 PM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
Yeah they keep biting my tails off. Seems like they are only nipping at it out of curiosity. But I think once I add the stinger that will help. Thanks for the advice.

Joey Dah Fish 08-04-2016 03:32 PM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
using a stinger hook with gulp? Not sure I've ever seen this technique . I got know how to rig this please send pic. I just can't see it how do you get 2 hooks thru single 6" grub with out A) destroying the grub or B) messing up the acrimony of the gulp? I gots to know

Jarhead 08-04-2016 03:53 PM

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I use what some of my buds call a "wonder rig"... 3 way swivel with the Spro about a foot from the swivel and a "teaser" about 2' long. I've been catching pretty regularly using a swimming mullet gulp (4 or 5 inch) on the Spro and the 6" grub on the teaser with a meat strip. I lose some grub tails but, on those days, I wait a "5 count" before I set the hook. The "Let 'em chew" strategy works well when they're short striking. Good luck!!

blindalfred 08-04-2016 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarhead (Post 456464)
I use what some of my buds call a "wonder rig"... 3 way swivel with the Spro about a foot from the swivel and a "teaser" about 2' long. I've been catching pretty regularly using a swimming mullet gulp (4 or 5 inch) on the Spro and the 6" grub on the teaser with a meat strip. I lose some grub tails but, on those days, I wait a "5 count" before I set the hook. The "Let 'em chew" strategy works well when they're short striking. Good luck!!

Agree, drop back or "Let 'em chew" strategy is the key with the large bait. 7/0 hook means you'll seldom gut hook a short fish and you won't get "tailed" as often.

NoLimit 08-04-2016 04:36 PM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
The stinger hook can just flop around - it does not have to go thru the grub

Joey Dah Fish 08-04-2016 04:40 PM

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Interesting. So you think it does not disturb the action of the gulp?

devildogski 08-04-2016 04:42 PM

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I trim them down to especially the big 8 inch ones I got

ALS Mako 08-04-2016 07:16 PM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Dah Fish (Post 456458)
using a stinger hook with gulp? Not sure I've ever seen this technique . I got know how to rig this please send pic. I just can't see it how do you get 2 hooks thru single 6" grub with out A) destroying the grub or B) messing up the acrimony of the gulp? I gots to know

When I used to use gulp ....add the grub to the bucktail then attach the stinger hook to the bend of the bucktail hook via a loop. I would the pass the stinger sideways at the base of where the curly tail started. The bucktail hook is vertical while the stinger hook is horizontal. That' s just the way I did it. I'm sure there are other ideas out there. Also if you just want to use a bucktail; no stinger I would recommend taking a bit of the grub off so that the hook of the bucktail comes out near the base of the curly tail. It's the action of the tail the fish see and peaks its interest......or you can just fish the wacky kwacky rig and forget all this bucktail/gulp shenanigans:D

dfish28 08-04-2016 07:29 PM

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And again... I wish Pure fishing (Berkeley Gulp) would just sell replacement swimming tails!!!! For focks sake !!!

Detour66 08-04-2016 08:51 PM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
I have had the tails bitten off also when fishing the ocean by the SHR. I don't think it's Fluke doing this. I think it's either small Sea Bass or Porgy's. There mouth are too small to be hooked most of the time but they are tearing off the tails!

FISHGERE 08-04-2016 09:31 PM

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Cant we go back to squid and speering even killies:(

shrimpman steve 08-04-2016 09:37 PM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
Acrimony, that's a big word for you:D

Abrasion 08-05-2016 08:07 AM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
$93 in tail-less Gulp later you'll have it figured out.....

hammer4reel 08-05-2016 10:05 AM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Dah Fish (Post 456458)
using a stinger hook with gulp? Not sure I've ever seen this technique . I got know how to rig this please send pic. I just can't see it how do you get 2 hooks thru single 6" grub with out A) destroying the grub or B) messing up the acrimony of the gulp? I gots to know

here ya go. If this doesnt work the tails are getting hammered by sea bass and other small fish.

super simple rig

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/y...pseohptmjv.jpg

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps3hmv06ts.jpg


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Capt Sal 08-05-2016 11:09 AM

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When i ran a PB i saw guys spending 50$ in Buck tails and all sorts of Gulps and tip the mate $2 lol Go figure?

Man Workin 08-05-2016 11:17 AM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
That's a great pic of a way to rig the gulp.Always good info here.
P.S tip your mates more then two bucks, unless they suck, just kidding.

hammer4reel 08-07-2016 08:04 PM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Man Workin (Post 456554)
That's a great pic of a way to rig the gulp.Always good info here.
P.S tip your mates more then two bucks, unless they suck, just kidding.

whats good is not much is exposed of the second hook except on a short strike, so it doesnt snag to bad.
Just need to make sure to position the second hook into in a way that keeps the grub straight so it doesnt roll.

Capt. Lou 08-07-2016 08:46 PM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
Dan's got it right only difference in my style rig is the first hook slide snelled so,I Can adjust if I Wish to bait up .
I know gulp is catching big fish but most of mine on bait!

Honger 08-08-2016 03:38 PM

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I should have used better looking and longer strip for pic purpose but i do this and honestly see no difference in the bites and catch, i try to fit the entire grub on the hook so its bit more natural looking i guess. I never throw away the bitten off grubs cuz quite frankly, the tail get bitten off too easily and its a pain in the azz to keep buying them.

WaltNJ 08-09-2016 12:28 PM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
Did pretty well on Thursday with the bigger fish hitting the bucktail with a sea robin strip.

All other fish hit the live killie (wonder rig style) except for one.

Although I've caught on gulp this year...I just haven't had "stellar" luck this year with gulp as I've had with meat.

SaltLife1980 08-10-2016 02:19 PM

Re: Fluke 6 inch gulp
 
I cut the grub down by about 2 inches so the hook is closer to the tail. But i usually fish the 6in grub on the bottom jig and a 5in swimming mullet on the top teaser.


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