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Chrisper4694 12-10-2014 07:31 PM

Land locked salmon
 
anyone ever heard of anyone having success fishing for these on aeroflex? I've tried a few times but only end up with every other species in the lake. I want to go again next weekend but there isn't much information on it.

acaravaglia 12-10-2014 07:37 PM

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Never seen any caught out of there.

DRiverRat 12-10-2014 10:14 PM

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I've picked landlocks in New York. Last trip was on the Schroon. 10 miles in canoes.... half a dozen salmon along with multiple browns and rainbows.
That was before the kayak craze.
2 people in our party almost drowned near the end of the trip.(unforseen whitewater w/o lifevests) The river was scouted beforehand, but a section near the end was obscured from our view.
One of the most memorable trips of my life.
Starting point was near Huggins Brook. We put out near Warrensburg.
Absolutely amazing fisherie!
We even tried for lakers in some of the deepest holes.

First landlock came from Maine tho.
Dolby Pond, which is the beginning of W.Branch Penobscot.

I'm pretty certain that the salmon stocking didn't quite take @ Aeroflex... I could be wrong.

gwl2oneida 12-11-2014 02:00 AM

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Like driverrat stated, schroon is amazing. Ice fished the lake for 3days straight last feb. No landlocked but we pulled up nice lake trout and I broke off a native northern pike of unknown size.

gwl2oneida 12-11-2014 06:08 AM

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Waywayanda stocks landlocked as well. I believe there's been some success reported in previous threads.

Skunk City 12-11-2014 08:58 AM

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If you are on Facebook, follow Andover Hunt and Fish. They put up pictures of Landlocks caught recently out of Aeroflex.

NJ Dave 12-11-2014 09:01 AM

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Lake George NY has a landlock stocking program that has been on the down fall tje past 10-15 years but has recently began to recover. In the 70 lg was salmon counrty. Introduction of lakers and soon the salmon began to get sparse. Problem big lakers eat everything. NyY stocks salmon in lg yearly but it has not took hold back. Problem was the 7 inch stockers got eaten by lakers before they even had a chance. Rumor they now stock less salmon but biggger sized giving them a chance and it seems like it has helped. I was only lucky enough to catch one in 30+ years up there bit have only really fished for em the past 5 years.
If you want lakers they are up there in #'s and are decent sized.
I think the NJ is facing a similar problem but here i beleive its the birds getting the small stocked salmon.

Chrisper4694 12-11-2014 11:05 AM

Re: Land locked salmon
 
well i'll be staying in nj so it'll have to be one of the 3 lakes here that have them...i thought aeroflex would be the best bet since it's smaller than waywanda (i think) and i've never once been to waywanda and know nothing about it...aeroflex at least i've fished with mild success for bass and trout.

so chances are they've taken better hold at waywanda? I didn't consider tilcon since they only just started putting them there, but maybe if they're putting bigger ones there...

slider 12-11-2014 01:19 PM

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LL Salmon are a very tempermental breed very few states having any real good success stocking them..But they are out there...To target them is probably a pretty tough task, trolling [probably best bet using basic trout lures spoons spinners in smaller sizes. good chance you will be rewarded with a brown trout or a rainbow, which isn't too bad a trade off..Waywayanda is bigger than Aeroflex, but its not a huge lake, trouble with both lakes once the state took over the crowds came and the great fishing of years ago has disappeared, but the stocking presents the chance to catch real sporty fish which the LL Salmon is..Want to catch one best bet Lake Winny in N.H. or lake Champlain either off NY side or Vt side..Salmon of size been taken in these lakes last few years..Good luck in your quest..It will be a formabile opponent..

Anthony 12-11-2014 01:30 PM

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I got 17 one day trolling Cayuga Lake. they were 65 down over 120 feet of water. the water temp at 65 feet was 54 degrees. I was trolling flutter spoons 50 feet back from the rigger weights at 1.5 mph. cool fish to catch.

slider 12-11-2014 06:39 PM

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Anthony: Thats a great days catch for LL salmon..Pretty tough to do that on any body of water these days...Now that u mention the finger lakes probably as a good a place to try for salmon as any wheres on the east coast..I think the biggest ones on coming out of Lake Ontario, but even there they are few and far between..Sporty fish, but their numbers seem to be dwindling...

jrock 12-11-2014 08:16 PM

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http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/...5/IMG_7758.jpg My buddy and I got our limit one day last year. I'm not gonna put to much info out on how we were getting them for the sake of keeping the lurkers in the dark lol, but these were 4 of about ten boated that day. I have had much success with these things with some days being better than others but have nevet got the skunk. Get out there and give them a try they are def. There to be caught and once you figure them out you will routinely catch them. We even lost one at the boat about 22-23 inches, she was a beaut. Tight line boys.

Capt. Lou 12-11-2014 10:55 PM

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Catching Landlocked Sslmon is similar to trolling any deep water lake !
Pay attention to temps they prefer cool temps similar to other Salmon species.
My favorite way of taking them is trolling on darker days with some surface chop.
In spring u can troll near surface with a fly rod equipped with Teeny sink tip line , I prefer a #7 rod with a Teeny 250 / 300 sink tip !
Once a Thermo forms send a lead core line down to preferred temp range.
Fly outfit u can troll smelt imitating streamers while led outfit spoons will get their attention ! Slightly faster troll speeds r preferred , once u zero in like was mentioned not hard to get hits !

Anthony 12-12-2014 12:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slider (Post 386144)
Anthony: Thats a great days catch for LL salmon..Pretty tough to do that on any body of water these days...Now that u mention the finger lakes probably as a good a place to try for salmon as any wheres on the east coast..I think the biggest ones on coming out of Lake Ontario, but even there they are few and far between..Sporty fish, but their numbers seem to be dwindling...

i fished lake Ontario on a regular basis from 1987 to 2009, and i think i only got 1 or 2 in all that time.

jimmythegreek 12-12-2014 03:47 PM

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do a search on kokanee and you will see many youtube vids and trolling gear that are targeted at these fish. I used to fish aeroflex alot years ago and Ive never caught one, even when targeting them. They are easier to catch this time of the year than in summer. aeroflex has a good herring population, and the place is a bowl 95% of the time, 20ft off shore you are in 20-30fow, so search for schools of herring and pay attention to their depths. thats where i would be targeting my gear, and also running some lines up high around 15-20ft down. just be careful trolling there, its basically 3 large bowls, the center bowl is around 100ft deep, but if your not careful w ur chartplotting you will troll right into the humps that divide the bowls and snag your gear. I would focus on the first 2 bowls, thats where most the trout Ive gotten were at, summer months u can jig them right on the bottom or night fish them like at RV. side imaging really helps on finding the bait balls without searching hard and if you have good marks you can even jig them up. I dont think the ramp dock is in anymore there, you will need knee boots to probably launch and retreive your boat, good luck. fyi they also had 600ish trout popped in on fall stocking, not much pressure up there after summer, should be at least a few trout to be had

Chrisper4694 12-13-2014 11:54 PM

Re: Land locked salmon
 
Thanks for the info guys. I'll be out at aero or way this Saturday giving it my best I'll let you know how it goes

Capt. Lou 12-14-2014 03:08 PM

Re: Land locked salmon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 386227)
i fished lake Ontario on a regular basis from 1987 to 2009, and i think i only got 1 or 2 in all that time.

I ran a charter business up there for 15+ seasons & never caught LL Salmon , sure u didn't get Atlantics ?? They were stocking those for awhile, not sure if they still do ?

bulletbob 12-14-2014 11:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. Lou (Post 386462)
I ran a charter business up there for 15+ seasons & never caught LL Salmon , sure u didn't get Atlantics ?? They were stocking those for awhile, not sure if they still do ?

They are all the same fish. Salmo Salar.. They will get bigger in Lake Ontario, more like a sea run fish [25+ lbs], but they are sourced the same as the inland lakes throughout NY.. They have not done well in LO.. They get big, but most disappear after stocking.. I don't think they can compete with the pacifics, rainbows, browns, etc.. Can't say why but they seem pretty fragile in the big lake

.. Lots of them in Cayuga Lake and easy to catch as long as you have time... They hit all winter, spring and late fall as well, and can be caught by spinning from shore , but the lake is 40 mile long, 2 miles wide, and 435 feet deep, with tons of bait, so its rarely blitz fishing.. In summer thay go down to about 25-50 feet, and trollers catch a lot of them on downriggers.. However, the small ones are the most aggressive, and thousands die on downrigger lines every year dragging them with a moving boat into warm water from the thermocline.. I usually catch a few a year blind casting here and there, I am not a troller, but that IS the best way to catch them.. If you don't mind using a 10 pound rigger ball, and heavy trolling gear to catch 2 pound LL salmon... bob

gwl2oneida 12-15-2014 05:45 AM

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The guide I use on the oswego river catches a few each season. However he hates them, rarely large enough to keep but mostly all die upon release due to the exhaustion from reeling them in. Almost a waste of a fish. There is also a club that stocks northern ny rivers ( fish creek east and west branch, mad river). They have limited success.

slider 12-15-2014 03:56 PM

Re: Land locked salmon
 
Chrisper: think most of replies ur getting here probably not helping you with your own choice of Lakes here in NJ...Aeroflex and Waywayanda both nice lakes to fish..LL Salmon can be caught in both..Her's tip that took lots of trout for me in Waywayanda over the years...Try driftin live bait perferably herring over the deeper portions of the lake..Long line drift and slow row trolling in spring can be deadly, you'll probably catch more trout there than salmon.But believe me that works..warm water have to drop ur bait down to cooler temps..Thermonmeter and depth finder really helps...BTW caught lots of Landlocks in Schroon Lake NY doing the same thing, with shinners, But here in Jersey stick with herring best Live Bait I've found to use here. Not a bad idea to slow troll streamers, small spoons and spinners along with #7 rapalas..


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