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Skunk City 02-19-2014 01:27 PM

2013 Stocking Totals
 
http://www.nj.gov/dep/fgw/pdf/2014/h...tockings13.pdf

gwl2oneida 02-19-2014 01:38 PM

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I didn't realize tigers were still being put in gwl.

UglyStick 02-19-2014 02:27 PM

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A continued thank you to Craig and the whole team at the Hackettstown hatchery who put in a lot of hard work and dedication raising and stocking these fish so we have the great fishery we do here in NJ.

PGAProfishional 02-19-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UglyStick (Post 345427)
A continued thank you to Craig and the whole team at the Hackettstown hatchery who put in a lot of hard work and dedication raising and stocking these fish so we have the great fishery we do here in NJ.

X2, Well Put!

Bicey 02-19-2014 02:36 PM

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All those golden shiners in the valley is encouraging.

ScowardNJ 02-19-2014 02:57 PM

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I know NJ trades Pike with Mass for Landlocks.....Does anyone know whats up with Connecticut and PA connections?

saxmatt 02-19-2014 03:16 PM

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I know the CT DEP does an awesome job with their pike program, it will be nice having fish with those genetics in a few lakes ;)

iceehot6766 02-19-2014 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by UglyStick (Post 345427)
A continued thank you to Craig and the whole team at the Hackettstown hatchery who put in a lot of hard work and dedication raising and stocking these fish so we have the great fishery we do here in NJ.


X3...Well said Jim!!!

FASTEDDIE29 02-19-2014 04:02 PM

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Thanx to all the men and women involved in making our little state the great fishery that it is. Damn, there's alot to catch in JERZEY!!!!

YEA BUDDY!!!!

Bicey 02-19-2014 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ScowardNJ (Post 345432)
I know NJ trades Pike with Mass for Landlocks.....Does anyone know whats up with Connecticut and PA connections?

PA buys/trades it's hybrid stripers from NJ. That's all I know. PA only produces pure strain stripers.

Eskimo 02-19-2014 04:54 PM

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Fascinating. The state F&G does a great job.

What strikes me odd, is why I don't catch more pike at Spruce Run.

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Spruce Run Reservoir 67,050 Pike + 2 smaller stockings
That's a lot of fish, yet I can't seem to find them there.

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Spruce Run Reservoir 4,460 Channel Catfish
That's not so many catfish, yet I can ALWAYS count on catching catfish there.
Most of the people fishing from the pier and shoreline are catching catfish, also.

My individual style of fishing must not lend itself well to catching pike. I don't know.



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UglyStick 02-19-2014 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by saxmatt (Post 345437)
I know the CT DEP does an awesome job with their pike program, it will be nice having fish with those genetics in a few lakes ;)

As a serious question since I know you worked for CT, then why are they getting pike fry from NJ?

UglyStick 02-19-2014 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ScowardNJ (Post 345432)
I know NJ trades Pike with Mass for Landlocks.....Does anyone know whats up with Connecticut and PA connections?

It's not all even exchanges... I forget what Craig told me but I'm not sure if in 2013 we got anything but the salmon from outside. All of these fish are provided at no charge to neighboring states as part of an ongoing fish exchange that has been in place for many years. Most of the cool and warm water programs started in New Jersey with eggs and fry from PA and NY. It's sort of a pay back for when we got help and a pay it forward for when we may need help from other states. These arrangements may very well come into play to help NJ get past the furunculosis problem at pequest.

jimmythegreek 02-19-2014 05:59 PM

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I forget what the percentage is, but theres ALOT of loss out of the stockings, u gotta remember most of these fish are fingerlings or less, thats the size of the herring and shiners we use as bait, easy meal for game fish......If you look at the species lists there are sizes listed, usually advanced fingerlings have the best chance......as far as muskie go I watched a stocking at LH and they were roughly 12" which is a great size to stock, I bet they have 80% or better on those making it thru the year.....My only gripe is wheres the TRUE STRAIN stripers for NJ, PA has em I want em in NJ really bad

catfishonthelake 02-19-2014 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UglyStick (Post 345461)
It's not all even exchanges... I forget what Craig told me but I'm not sure if in 2013 we got anything but the salmon from outside. All of these fish are provided at no charge to neighboring states as part of an ongoing fish exchange that has been in place for many years. Most of the cool and warm water programs started in New Jersey with eggs and fry from PA and NY. It's sort of a pay back for when we got help and a pay it forward for when we may need help from other states. These arrangements may very well come into play to help NJ get past the furunculosis problem at pequest.

x100 on the job that Craig and team do at the hatchery. If you've never been over there or talked to any of the workers, you'd be amazed how a little state like ours has the best warmwater hatchery in the Northeast. Thank you guys for everything you do.

And Jim is exactly right. We often wind up with a surplus and some of these fish are picked-up by other states when they are very small and raised at their hatcheries. I forget Craig's exact words, but it was something to the effect of helping out and never knowing when it's going to be us that needs the favor. Lots of things can go wrong raising so many different species, and the neighboring states depend on each other to fill the gaps.

Bicey 02-19-2014 06:44 PM

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"My only gripe is wheres the TRUE STRAIN stripers for NJ, PA has em I want em in NJ really bad"
+1 Where would they put them though? I know where you want them Jimmy!;)

saxmatt 02-19-2014 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UglyStick (Post 345459)
As a serious question since I know you worked for CT, then why are they getting pike fry from NJ?

It's the other way around. If you read the stocking reports it looks like NJ is getting pike from CT and MA.

UglyStick 02-19-2014 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by saxmatt (Post 345481)
It's the other way around. If you read the stocking reports it looks like NJ is getting pike from CT and MA.

Not so... From The NJ F&W 2013 Broodstock collection report...

"Over the winter, we also received requests from the Connecticut Division of Fish and Wildlife for 100,000 swimup northern pike fry"

We supplied Budd Lake source fry to CT in 2013...

saxmatt 02-19-2014 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UglyStick (Post 345486)
Not so... From The NJ F&W 2013 Broodstock collection report...

"Over the winter, we also received requests from the Connecticut Division of Fish and Wildlife for 100,000 swimup northern pike fry"

We supplied Budd Lake source fry to CT in 2013...

Can you post a link to the report? I'd like to read it. The one skunk posted said that we got 135,000 pike fry from CT, maybe they want to try the Budd strain in a CT lake and the CT fish in NJ. The Budd pike are definitely different than the CT pike. I like the coloration of the Budd pike but the ones in CT are bigger, but that's probably due to the CT lakes having better habitat and forage base.

UglyStick 02-19-2014 11:42 PM

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Read about 3/4 of the way down, right above the last picture...

http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/arthackbrd13.htm

Matt, you are absolutely a pike master so no disrespect but I think the report says what we supplied (stocked or gave) so it was 135K going to CT. Based on what I've seen you catch, it certainly seems like they have some awesome fish there...

saxmatt 02-19-2014 11:54 PM

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Yeah, looks like the 135K went to the CT pike marshes. I'll have to post some pics when I start catching budd lake colored pike up there in a few years.

AndyS 02-20-2014 12:08 AM

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Where did all the Pike in the Millstone river go ?

UglyStick 02-20-2014 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AndyS (Post 345493)
Where did all the Pike in the Millstone river go ?

It's kind of like Cranberry Lake, you never hear of anyone catching a pike there - even Andover Hunt & Fish just up the road said they never hear of any.

ScowardNJ 02-20-2014 08:48 AM

Re: 2013 Stocking Totals
 
I wasn't tying to stir the pot, I was just curious.

As for the pure strain stipers, Jersey has tons of them. You just gotta get some sand on your feet or some brine on your boat. Or find Eddies truck after a rain storm...:D


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