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Capt Sal 01-30-2014 11:33 AM

If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Just wondering how many anglers would still charter or go on a party boat if the striped bass limit is reduced to one fish.In reality one striper yields a lot of fillet.Don't think this can't happen.Although NJ has the spawning bass from the Hudson we still might get screwed!Producer states should be allowed a reasonable bag limit.What are your feelings on this matter?

kurtisb 01-30-2014 01:11 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
I'll still go. I don't like eating them anyway. Catch and release is fine with me.

torchee 01-30-2014 01:21 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Bring back the slot fish!

Ol Pedro 01-30-2014 01:23 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
I would still go as most of my fishing is with jigs. Jig fish are easily released and generally hooked in the lip .

SplitShot 01-30-2014 01:37 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Wouldnt make a difference to me....I keep a fish for dinner and chowder but try to release most that I catch if theyre able to swim away. I enjoy the sport, not looking for the kill :D

jmurr711 01-30-2014 01:54 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
sounds fine to me less time i have to spend catching striped catfish the more time i can spend catching lings

Jigman13 01-30-2014 02:10 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
x2 on the slot idea! I tend to only keep 28"-30" fish anyway... let the big girls go!

RussA 01-30-2014 02:22 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torchee (Post 343532)
Bring back the slot fish!

Umm how can you bring something back that never was... Good talk!

Super 01-30-2014 02:37 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
I'd still go. I'd probably go if the limit were -0-, especially if I caught more.

RussA 01-30-2014 02:39 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jigman13 (Post 343540)
x2 on the slot idea! I tend to only keep 28"-30" fish anyway... let the big girls go!

The spawning stock are from 28"-45" so roughly 12-40lbs.

So all you guys hammering the stripers day in and out are the cause for the slower striper seasons as of late.

This is pure fact. You can't blame the commercial fishery on this at all.

Fish over 45lbs eggs start to lose viability. By the time a striper is pushing 50lbs their eggs in most, are not viable.

So throwing back 50lb fish really does nothing.

;)

Super 01-30-2014 02:44 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RussA (Post 343547)
The spawning stock are from 28"-45" so roughly 12-40lbs.

So all you guys hammering the stripers day in and out are the cause for the slower striper seasons as of late.

This is pure fact. You can't blame the commercial fishery on this at all.

Fish over 45lbs eggs start to lose viability. By the time a striper is pushing 50lbs their eggs in most, are not viable.

So throwing back 50lb fish really does nothing.

;)

I mostly agree, but there was a 24"-28" slot for years. And fishing was very good in those years.

RussA 01-30-2014 03:30 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Super (Post 343549)
I mostly agree, but there was a 24"-28" slot for years. And fishing was very good in those years.

What years? All I remember was 1 at 36" and one year they even raised it to 38" for a few months, then what you have seen in the last 15years or so.

Super 01-30-2014 04:02 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RussA (Post 343554)
What years? All I remember was 1 at 36" and one year they even raised it to 38" for a few months, then what you have seen in the last 15years or so.

Around 2002 +/- a few years. Regs are still available here: http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/digmar13_pdf.htm#past

bunker dunker 01-30-2014 04:04 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
I'm going even if they close it!!!! They want pirates then lets do this

BCinerie 01-30-2014 04:18 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
I will go fish for any specie!!! even i the limit is 1/2 a fish. It is in my blood to fish. Sad to see things like this because we all know if it does not change our kids will never know what it mean to go fishing and enjoy a fresh cooked fish dinner!!! I do not condone breaking the rules but sometimes a man has to do what he has to do!!! Raise the pirate flag!! arg arg arg!!!

Harpoon 01-30-2014 04:21 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
I enjoy striped bass season....the bottom fishing boats have more room at the rail this time of year! In all seriousness I would still go if it was limited to one.

Fisherman120 01-30-2014 04:36 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
I would certainly still fish for them just as much.

shrimpman steve 01-30-2014 04:38 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
I remember the slot.

joeya78 01-30-2014 04:39 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Def still go, one is large enough for some fresh meals

hammer4reel 01-30-2014 05:24 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
would fish for linesiders even if couldnt keep ANY

Jigman13 01-30-2014 05:46 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RussA (Post 343547)
The spawning stock are from 28"-45" so roughly 12-40lbs.

So all you guys hammering the stripers day in and out are the cause for the slower striper seasons as of late.

This is pure fact. You can't blame the commercial fishery on this at all.

Fish over 45lbs eggs start to lose viability. By the time a striper is pushing 50lbs their eggs in most, are not viable.

So throwing back 50lb fish really does nothing.

;)

Is this 100% valid info? Like culling out the old bucks?

I dont catch 50s so it's a moot point in my case lol :D

RussA 01-30-2014 05:58 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Super (Post 343559)
Around 2002 +/- a few years. Regs are still available here: http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/digmar13_pdf.htm#past

Oh ok, (NY here :)) NY still has that stupid Hybrid slot, where you get 1 between 28" and 42" and one greater that 42".

It isn't working out too good.

In my opinion if you want a sustainable stock, Boat owners, be them Private, 6 Pack, or head boat should enforce the no catch and release rule for themselves and once you catch your limit of striper bass that's it.

Then you can go target another kind of fish. But most don't like this idea, because it would actually work, but they want what they want and instead of policing themselves the asshats at the .gov will take away their rights one fish at a time.

Same goes for all other fish.

RussA 01-30-2014 06:02 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jigman13 (Post 343580)
Is this 100% valid info? Like culling out the old bucks?

I dont catch 50s so it's a moot point in my case lol :D

LOL yes it's legitimate info...

You can verify it with your local Marine Biologist who's expertise are Striped Bass. :)

SaltLife1980 01-30-2014 06:59 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Yea id still go.. Get one for dinner.. then enjoy catch and release for the rest of the trip.. Its still a good time even if im not killing everything i catch out there..

A slot fish would be cool too.. one at 28in and one at over 38in or so..

Joey Dah Fish 01-30-2014 07:05 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
I will I'm cataclysmic and release :) just love to fish. It's not the kill but the thrill of the chase. But I'm sure it will kill the charter boats :(

makosnax 01-30-2014 08:37 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
The slot was great, they were better eating. I have no desire to eat a 20# plus striper, tastes like crap. Let em all go.

fishunt 01-30-2014 08:38 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
1 bass would be fine with me. just leave the fluke limits alone:D

njfisherman1975 01-30-2014 10:40 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
I would still go...I love eating them...but from netting bunker to catching a striper is an experience. Can't beat live lining a bunker...and watching a striper break the surface and nail it. To me...that's what it's all about!!!

rumster 01-30-2014 11:20 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RussA (Post 343547)
The spawning stock are from 28"-45" so roughly 12-40lbs.

So all you guys hammering the stripers day in and out are the cause for the slower striper seasons as of late.

This is pure fact. You can't blame the commercial fishery on this at all.

Fish over 45lbs eggs start to lose viability. By the time a striper is pushing 50lbs their eggs in most, are not viable.

So throwing back 50lb fish really does nothing.

;)

So I guess when you run across 100`s of bass floating dead in the ocean, which are the result of being the by catch from the commercial bunker boats that has nothing at all to do with with the down turn. There are many reasons for the decline and angler greed is just one of them.
How does anyone state something as pure fact, when they don`t even know that there was a slot fish???

RussA 01-31-2014 12:42 AM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rumster (Post 343630)
So I guess when you run across 100`s of bass floating dead in the ocean, which are the result of being the by catch from the commercial bunker boats that has nothing at all to do with with the down turn. There are many reasons for the decline and angler greed is just one of them.
How does anyone state something as pure fact, when they don`t even know that there was a slot fish???

It's simple, I am from NY and the slot limit was only for a short time. To nitpick is folly.

Your state allows Omega Protein to harvest bunker, NY doesn't.

The above are facts, the only thing that was corrected was there was a slot limit and I said wow I didn't realize.

You can blame the bunker boats all you want but the facts are the for hire boats are doing the most damage. This is a fact. Show me where you have seen 100's of dead stripers from bunker boats in NY Harbor or the Raritan bay, you can't because you are talking about other states.

There are 2 main spawning areas, The Chesapeake and the Hudson. The delaware bay may have some fish but the two areas I just named are the primary areas we catch our bass from.

From March through December for hire boats from NC to MA wreak havoc on both stocks of fish. They are even caught in the eeze illegally.

These are facts you can not dispute. In the 70's and 80's it was commercial, in the 2000's its the for hire boats and private boats.

Sure you can say but I saw a picture of dead stripers and so on, do you know how much bunker I saw with nothing on them all summer long while fluking? an ungodly number. So the bunker boats are doing their own damage to the bunker and I for one want them gone, but this is for another thread.

In order to fix the problems Private and for hire boats need to start policing themselves. I for one am sick of getting dictated to what I can catch and how many I can keep and when I can catch them... How about you?

rumster 01-31-2014 10:05 AM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Russa, Obviously you are very passionate about your perception of the problem to post a response at 12.42 am and that`s okay. Your new to the forum and I believe it was 2 years ago when several captains who frequent the site brought to light what they had seen regarding 100`s of bass floating dead, which were the result of the bunker boats.
Your entitled to your opinion regarding a great many topics that you choose to comment on, but your opinion is just one mans view of things.
No. I am not happy about being force fed bullshit regs from a government that does not know it`s ass from it`s elbow, yet will cave in to the highest bidder.
Tight lines.

Capt Sal 01-31-2014 10:46 AM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Russa You keep bashing NJ for no good reason.As far as our state allowing bunker to be sold for Omega you are dead wrong.The bunker boats have a ''B'' on them and that means bait only.As far as NY not allowing Omega boats wrong again.Reduction boats are not allowed inside the the three mile line and that means State waters.NY has nothing to say about federal waters.NY does not allow purse sieners inside the three mile line or Raritan Bay or Long Island Sound.Get your info in order.I have seen stripers floating in Raritan Bay after being dumped over by purse sieners netting bunker.Weakfish also were crushed.

Next this post is about a striper limit and angler participation not your NY verses NJ BS.This is a NJ site and a good one so let it go and stop hijacking posts for your own agenda!

I want to thank everyone that responded.True sportsman on this site IMHO

O'Connor 01-31-2014 12:02 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
I was always told they continue to spawn until they die....a 50 lb fish is not even close to the top end of size for the species...no reason to believe a fish in this class will not successfully spawn vs a 30 lb. Where did you get your information?

kcritch 01-31-2014 12:19 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
I'd definitely still go....Love the sport of them most of all. Love eatin' them too...I think they are great tasting at any size! 1 fish per day is plenty in my opinion.

Capt. Debbie 01-31-2014 01:09 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
If you wont go for a 30 inch long striper... obviously 2 10" lon winter flounders must be laughable.

No one fishes for cheap food. That's rediculous.

I fish off the tow boat 10-12 hours a day for many many weekends. Almost everything I catch is C&R. Or I can read a book and not fish?

Which would you do?

Flukemeister1 01-31-2014 01:16 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
[QUOTE=RussA;343547]The spawning stock are from 28"-45" so roughly 12-40lbs.

So all you guys hammering the stripers day in and out are the cause for the slower striper seasons as of late.

This is pure fact. You can't blame the commercial fishery on this at all.

You seriously dont' believe what you have said. Just look at the attached and see what the commercial fleet is doing down south. This is North Carolina. Virginia is just as bad.



http://www.northcarolinasportsman.co...ls.php?id=1722

Oasis 01-31-2014 01:39 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
FUNNNNY, how most of comments here is about how no one care to take more than one bass. but when I'm on party boats and fishing is good I see the mate straggling to limit fares from keeping fish and get an accurate numbers of keepers on the boat.
I understand keeping your limit and give away fish to friends and neighbors or to the less fortunate (which a lot of us do), but pay what we pay to go fishing and get a few days that we go home with no fish and then when the fishing is good and we can keep 2 doesn't sound too bad.
lets call it as we see it.

Ol Pedro 01-31-2014 02:23 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Oasis , the question was will you still fish if the limit were one Bass . Like you , I would rather have a two Bass limit and have the option to keep two.

Skolmann 01-31-2014 02:52 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Russ A. sounds as if he had 1 too many Rusty Nails.

Ol Pedro 01-31-2014 02:54 PM

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?
 
Russ A., I think that a lot of us on this site do a pretty good job of policing ourselves when it comes to wasting fish. Some of the 6 Pac's do catch their limits and then fish for other species. I haven't been out too many times when the Party boat that I was on had a boat limit. I have jigged as many as twenty short Bass to get one keeper. That being said ,if we do what you suggest shouldn't we just keep the first two Stripers that we catch and go home ? No catch and release just catch and kill ? The 22" Striper that I release has just as good a chance as the 32"er when it isn't gut hooked and netted instead of gaffed . I love catching Stripers and eating them TOO!!! There's nothing like seeing three Bass follow my jig up and fight for it or almost having the rod pulled out of my hands when I'm burning my jig back and that Cow blasts it going the other way. Also no one has mentioned the floaters that local gillnetters have left in the past .


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