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Foul Hook 01-02-2022 01:13 PM

Broken knot
 
The last few trips I've broken off a couple of very nice fish. Both times recently the "perfection loop " at the top of the snelled hook has broken. What other knots are out there that have more strength and can be prefabbed and ready to go when needed. Typically I tie a dozen rigs prior to going fishing. Any thoughts?

hammer4reel 01-02-2022 03:19 PM

Re: Broken knot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Foul Hook (Post 566120)
The last few trips I've broken off a couple of very nice fish. Both times recently the "perfection loop " at the top of the snelled hook has broken. What other knots are out there that have more strength and can be prefabbed and ready to go when needed. Typically I tie a dozen rigs prior to going fishing. Any thoughts?

What pound test ?
And are you really wetting the knot before you cinch it down ?

Loosen the drag a little after you move the fish out of the piece

Foul Hook 01-02-2022 04:28 PM

Re: Broken knot
 
Hey Dan, I'm using 50lb flouro on my snelled rigs with 65
Lb power pro and 50 lb topshot. I have the drag set for about 20 lbs or so If I remember. Broke them off while they were pulling drag, right at the perfection loop, 2x. A little frustrating to say the least. Maybe my knot wasn't tied properly IDK. I do get some spit on the knot while tieing them. Bad luck I guess. Not many other knot options out for a snelled rig I guess.

Ol Pedro 01-02-2022 06:34 PM

Re: Broken knot
 
Is the perfection loop on the hook end or the main line connection?

Foul Hook 01-02-2022 10:23 PM

Re: Broken knot
 
I connect to the mainline topshot which is doubled up

Ol Pedro 01-03-2022 12:59 PM

Re: Broken knot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Foul Hook (Post 566137)
I connect to the mainline topshot which is doubled up

I'm thinking smart fish running back in the sticky stuff. You could try a surgeon's loop. Easy to tie and pretty strong.

bulletbob 01-03-2022 01:20 PM

Re: Broken knot
 
Everybody is using fluoro these days, and it is supposed to have much better knot strength.. I am ultra careful with knots and very carefully wet and draw them tight.. After having a bunch of big fish break knots with fluoro, I switched back to mono.. Its wasn't cheap fluoro either it was Seaguar... It did not work as well as mono as far as "knotability", at least not for me...bob

Jigman13 01-03-2022 02:52 PM

Re: Broken knot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletbob (Post 566151)
Everybody is using fluoro these days, and it is supposed to have much better knot strength.. I am ultra careful with knots and very carefully wet and draw them tight.. After having a bunch of big fish break knots with fluoro, I switched back to mono.. Its wasn't cheap fluoro either it was Seaguar... It did not work as well as mono as far as "knotability", at least not for me...bob

Seaguar ties easier than Yo zuri hybrid... if anyone was curious... my experience anyway

kurtisb 01-04-2022 05:25 PM

Re: Broken knot
 
Use 80 for your snells. Perfection loops is about 40% line strength. Surgeon's loop knot is near 100%.

june181901 01-04-2022 11:39 PM

Re: Broken knot
 
When I'm doing rigs at home I use a drop of corn or canola oil in lieu of saliva when cinching. I think it helps for better knot.

Foul Hook 01-05-2022 01:32 PM

Re: Broken knot
 
Thanks for all the replies. Gonna change from the perfection to the surgeons loop. Reports to follow.


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