Which knot - braid to shock
 

What type of knot do you guys feel is best for tying your shock leader to your braid? I've been using a modified Albright knot aka Alberto knot and I take great care in tying it. I also make sure I don't cut the tag ends off too close to the knot. However, once in a while the knot will come undone but fortunately never while i was fighting a fish. I assume the knot gets loosened by repeatedly going through the guides. Has anyone had similar problems with this knot or others?

Thanks,
Paul Haertel

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Double Uni Knot
Never failed me on stripers, blues, fluke, tog, albies, etc.

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I was using the FG for awhile but it is not easy to tie correctly and also had it fail. I have only used the Reverse Albright since and haven't had any issues. I make a few half hitches to finish it off.

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Reverse Albright , the key is to form loop then form knot ! Triple surgeons or Bimini loop then always wrap mono around double line loop ten wraps, mono goes thru loop and exits same side of loop , leave tag end long tighten in one smooth motion , it will lock down , done ! I use gloves to tighten ! Takes 30 seconds to tie .
I’ve taken tuna on this knot never expierened a failure ! Inshore no issues , used over 20 years !

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I use the FG knot, but only when I tie at home. I put a very small drop of super glue on the end with the half hitches. On a boat, I tie Alberto Knots. Faster and easier.

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Double uni knot has always been my choice to attach mono or flouro to braid, never had one loosen up on me

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Alberto because it is easy to tie especially on a boat this time of year. However, make sure you do two half hitches with the tag end just for added insurance.

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Takes a minute longer to tie, but I use a PR bobbin knot on everything.
If you tie it with a second person it can be done super fast.


It goes through the guides easier than most of the other knots including going through the smaller level winds many of the low profile reels are using..


The UNI to UNI wont fit through those small level winds if using over 30 # leader

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I got a good one. It never fails. It's the only one I know how to tie but I don't know what it's called.

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Albright knot. smaller profile so it goes through guides better

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I'm with Capt. Lou only I use a 5-6 turn surgeons loop & a 12 turn Albright--12 up, 12 back. A mate showed me this variation 3 years ago...quite small diameter, goes through my level wind no sweat...

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Never had my uni to uni fail.

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I have never had a uni to uni fail. It's not difficult, just have to make sure you moisten the mono

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Alberto Knot is my choice. Slim knot slides right through the eyes without getting caught and its fairly quick to tie.

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I’m using the improved Alberto Knot as well... Most important step is step number 3... If you dont pass the line through the loop the same way it came in the knot will fail...

http://www.101knots.com/alberto-knot...ight-knot.html

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Yes very good point! That’s a key step for sure.

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That's where most go wrong and, as mentioned above, adding a few half hitches with the braid over the mono after the initial knot is cinched can't hurt either...

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Reverse Albright formed with a double line loop is all you will need inshore , I developed this knot to be a variation of a very solid knot for PP years ago . Other knots have extra steps and in my opinion are harder to tie , if your breaking this knot you did something wrong ! It's a 30 second knot if that !
Offshore you may wish to go another route but I stuck with this for tuna as well !
Under other circumstances I would got to HC anyway & splice !

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I have now been wrapping the braid 8-10 times each way and putting it through the loop at the end twice rather than once. This newer version of the modified Albright or Alberto Knot seems to have done the trick. Thanks again! Paul Haertel

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Hmm - Doubling the line through the loop twice sounds like a plan... I guess it works given the size of the fish I saw you and your crew with the other day Paul :eek::eek:

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I've never tried to double within the loop after coming back up but I might just give that a try next time and see if it's just as slim.

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Steve & Marc, Uni to Uni is a very strong knot and I've never had one fail either. The only problem is the knot is much bulkier than Albright or Alberto and always gets hung up on the tip especially when loaded.

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Yep - that's the problem with the uni to uni. If you have a long top shot and try to cast, it gets hung up in the guides...

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If I'm tying at home, I take the time and do a short bimini loop (12-18" long) in the braid and then use a yucatan knot to connect the leader.

If I'm retying on the boat, it depends on the seas. I prefer to do a spider hitch then a yucatan again. If things are rocking, I use an alberto knot.

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modified albright or alberto (whatever you want to call it, pretty sure it's the same knot) terminal knot almost always breaks first and it's pretty small with any leader under 30-40# Every time i've tried the FG knot and run it through my fingers a few times to test it's durability, it starts loosening so i refuse to use it.

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My personal fav and strongest I know is the Alberto knot....trim the tag end as tight as you can and even give it a dose of super glue that helps with the guide issue.

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check out the thread I posted in Bait and tackle here. guys may rethink what knots they want to use .
many listed here are actually pretty weak knots

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Good info in here and that knot strength list is interesting. I usually use the Albright knot as it's easier for me to redo on the boat but I'll try some of these out higher up on the strength list.