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The Bill TM 01-28-2013 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharkyispy
So the Bounty Hunter mate says he's worried about the charter guys who are inexperienced and losing a big fish and costing him money... I get it... but why then are you taking a group of guys who are paying for your charter? Not something you should be saying publicly on TV. Now Capt Bill s saying the same thing.........AND then they lose a nice tuna by themselves w/o a charter????

I was just fishing in Mexico on a charter and something similar to this happened to me. I was pulling up a big grouper and the captain thought I was just an inexperienced fisherman struggling with a small fish on. It wasn't until the slob started to surface and he knew it was nice money in his pocket that he stopped laughing at me and took it seriously. We landed it, then when the line dropped back down to the bottom, we hooked up again and the mate tried to set the hook without setting the drag properly and the leader snapped. Now I know the market for grouper and bluefin tuna are drastically different the principle here is the same. Fishing is fishing and not catching, no matter the experience level lost fish is part of fishing and can happen to anyone.
With that said, I feel that when you book a charter the captain and crew have an obligation to the experience of the customer and any fish caught that can be sold is an added bonus. You can't have your fish cake and eat it too.

Sorry for the rant guys, love the show and happy the Tuna.com isn't portrayed as the villains of the Massachusetts seas anymore, those Pin Wheel guys need to shut up and learn from the veterans instead of playing childish antics that make the fishing community as a whole look poorly.

Ol Pedro 01-28-2013 02:33 PM

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No one is immuned to #'s poaching . It happens all the time offshore on Bottom trips . Some boats leave early to steal your spot from the prior days fishing . It's frustrating when you travel 60+ miles only to find someone on your spot . You just hope that there are othe pieces close . It's just part of fishing . Never leave port without a plan B and C .

Jay 01-28-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bill TM
I was just fishing in Mexico on a charter and something similar to this happened to me. I was pulling up a big grouper and the captain thought I was just an inexperienced fisherman struggling with a small fish on. It wasn't until the slob started to surface and he knew it was nice money in his pocket that he stopped laughing at me and took it seriously. We landed it, then when the line dropped back down to the bottom, we hooked up again and the mate tried to set the hook without setting the drag properly and the leader snapped. Now I know the market for grouper and bluefin tuna are drastically different the principle here is the same. Fishing is fishing and not catching, no matter the experience level lost fish is part of fishing and can happen to anyone.
With that said, I feel that when you book a charter the captain and crew have an obligation to the experience of the customer and any fish caught that can be sold is an added bonus. You can't have your fish cake and eat it too.

Sorry for the rant guys, love the show and happy the Tuna.com isn't portrayed as the villains of the Massachusetts seas anymore, those Pin Wheel guys need to shut up and learn from the veterans instead of playing childish antics that make the fishing community as a whole look poorly.

I hear where your coming from. It's a TV show, they have to make it interesting. There trying to play actors, I wouldn't take it to heart. Makes it interesting.

SaltLife1980 01-28-2013 05:23 PM

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The bounty hunter has to make a dollar where he can.. and yes it can get frustrating when you have first timers out fishing and they keep loosing fish.. But have to remember they are paying the bills by coming out fishing with you..

Ol Pedro 01-28-2013 05:54 PM

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Whats up with Pinwheel saying that Greensticks are something new . They have been used by Comm. trollers out West for quite some time . I guess that some people in California think that Spreader bars are new too .

SaltLife1980 01-28-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Pedro
Whats up with Pinwheel saying that Greensticks are something new . They have been used by Comm. trollers out West for quite some time . I guess that some people in California think that Spreader bars are new too .


lol.. i was thinking the same thing.. they have been around forever

Joey Dah Fish 01-28-2013 06:06 PM

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I have yet to go out on a canyon trip and not see a green stick working. Let's give him a nick name. Pin Head is Fishin on Pin Wheel :)

SaltLife1980 01-28-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey Dah Fish
I have yet to go out on a canyon trip and not see a green stick working. Let's give him a nick name. Pin Head is Fishin on Pin Wheel :)


lol

Chico 01-28-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Pedro
No one is immuned to #'s poaching . It happens all the time offshore on Bottom trips . Some boats leave early to steal your spot from the prior days fishing . It's frustrating when you travel 60+ miles only to find someone on your spot . You just hope that there are othe pieces close . It's just part of fishing . Never leave port without a plan B and C .

Several times when I chartered out of Key Largo we had "weekend warriors" follow the boat out of the marina looking to follow us to the snapper/grouper fishing spots. The Capt. would take us into an area with really sticky bottom, drop his anchor (a thin, re-bar style, with a breakaway for easy release) and we would wait until the following boat would set his dansforth anchor in the bottom. We would then pull anchor and slowly drive away as the other guy was freaking out, realizing his anchor was stuck!! Once in a while, the capt would return to the spot at the end of the day and with his skill and anchor ball, retrieve the abandoned anchor!! Served them right!!! Good episode of Wicked Tuna, seems everyone can end up fishing someone elses spot!!

Ol Pedro 01-29-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Joey Dah Fish
I have yet to go out on a canyon trip and not see a green stick working. Let's give him a nick name. Pin Head is Fishin on Pin Wheel :)

I was thinking the same nickname ! Now we have Tricky Dave and Pinhead .


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