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SaltLife1980 03-04-2013 06:37 PM

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Googans Everywhere!!

Chico 03-04-2013 08:40 PM

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I was trying to watch two shows at once, googans everywhere on one channel, walking dead everywhere on the other tv channel!! Not sure what is worse!!!

SaltLife1980 03-04-2013 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico
I was trying to watch two shows at once, googans everywhere on one channel, walking dead everywhere on the other tv channel!! Not sure what is worse!!!


I was doing the same thing.. Walking dead and Wicked Tuna

tombanjo 03-04-2013 11:25 PM

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I wonder how those guys would react to getting a fish or anchor line cut off by another boat without the cameras there. Something tells me it might be a bit different.

Like him or not, nice job by that kid landing the fish solo. Deserves props. Did his crew quit on him?

The pranking should be a side bar, like on Deadliest Catch, not the main theme of the night. Guess you can blame the lack of fish for that. Would have rather they focused more time on Tyler's solo fish, way more interesting.

SaltLife1980 03-05-2013 12:17 AM

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The cut bait in the pole holders is a classic.. Within a day the smell is out of control.. lol.. Another good one is to put bait on the deck so all the birds land and eat and crap everywhere.. lol

They did not say where tylers crew was.. I know in the last one he said if they did not get in the water to cut the line out of the prop that he was going to leave them at the dock.. so maybe it was bc of that.. Fishing solo for them is a little Scary.. a lot can go wrong fast... I know it can be done but much easier with a crew

sportfishingusa 03-05-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SaltLife1980
The cut bait in the pole holders is a classic.. Within a day the smell is out of control.. lol.. Another good one is to put bait on the deck so all the birds land and eat and crap everywhere.. lol

They did not say where tylers crew was.. I know in the last one he said if they did not get in the water to cut the line out of the prop that he was going to leave them at the dock.. so maybe it was bc of that.. Fishing solo for them is a little Scary.. a lot can go wrong fast... I know it can be done but much easier with a crew


If you listen to him in the cockpit on deck that day, he said they worked so hard lately he gave them a week off but he was not going to stop fishing.

and i would have to assume we are not seeing many shots of tuna.com because it seems he is getting on the boat early and leaving late so i am thinking he might have charters to full fill while filming?

SaltLife1980 03-05-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sportfishingusa
If you listen to him in the cockpit on deck that day, he said they worked so hard lately he gave them a week off but he was not going to stop fishing.

and i would have to assume we are not seeing many shots of tuna.com because it seems he is getting on the boat early and leaving late so i am thinking he might have charters to full fill while filming?


oh.. so maybe tyler gave em some time off.. I hope he didnt ditch his crew.. seemed like good guys who worked hard.. and the one even had his back when Ralph pushed him to the ground.. They have shown the boats out on a charter so idk why they would not show it again.. who knows..

Pennsy Guy 03-05-2013 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JayO
I think it is funny how they call Rec guys Googans, but they are willing to take on a charter when it's a slow season. ;)

Yea, but it's a + in the ledger, not a -...bait 'n fuel for another tuna search...don't forget Marciano did it last year & they got a fish..the charter guys each got a turn,a shirt and a major memory...they seemed most appreciative for crankin' the handle...
Bill puts too much onus on the charter to "keep it tight" & "they don't know"!!!Didn't look like it to me..seemed like the charter was doing a pretty good job...
Question for Dave(Tuna.Com)...I know it'd take longer to get the fish to the harpoon and it would probably fetch less at the buyer, but wouldn't easing off on the drag help improve the catch/pulled hook ratio? Don't really know what it is, but from the show, it seems pretty bad... Drags set at 50-60#? Bluefin's mouth isn't iron plus the fish's inherent weight generates a lot of preloaded drag, or not?

inquiring minds would like to know;)

pulltaug 03-06-2013 09:22 AM

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1. Tyler gave his crew the week off
2. Putting the truck up on blocks was pretty good
3. The Bounty Hunter is great at catching shorts - but sucks at everything else
4. The googans will always be there - so deal with it...stop complaining
5. Tyler is the face of a new era of fisherman. Hard core, young and brash!
6. Tuna.com is still my favorite. Sandro knows his way around that boat and that other mate (forgot his name - think it's Paul) is a hoot!

Good show but too much drama and not enough fishing!
I want to see techniques, rigs, rods, etc.

- Someone should pitch a a show about the Spring Striper run and charter boat captains. More catching, more aciton and less drama.

Ol Pedro 03-06-2013 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SaltLife1980
Googans Everywhere!!

It's always easier to blame someone else for your ineptness . Googans fit the bill . It's one thing when one runs over your anchor line . It's another when there isn't a boat in the direction the fish is pulling . Stop um or pop um mantality takes it's toll . Break the fishes will or break your tackle . I'de rather lose them early than have them fall off at color. We didn't start landing the 100+lb BFT until we put the WOOD to them . Too bad we don't target them anymore . I miss the Bacardi and Texas Tower . Thank you Goverment .

TUNA.COM 03-06-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pennsy Guy
Yea, but it's a + in the ledger, not a -...bait 'n fuel for another tuna search...don't forget Marciano did it last year & they got a fish..the charter guys each got a turn,a shirt and a major memory...they seemed most appreciative for crankin' the handle...
Bill puts too much onus on the charter to "keep it tight" & "they don't know"!!!Didn't look like it to me..seemed like the charter was doing a pretty good job...
Question for Dave(Tuna.Com)...I know it'd take longer to get the fish to the harpoon and it would probably fetch less at the buyer, but wouldn't easing off on the drag help improve the catch/pulled hook ratio? Don't really know what it is, but from the show, it seems pretty bad... Drags set at 50-60#? Bluefin's mouth isn't iron plus the fish's inherent weight generates a lot of preloaded drag, or not?

inquiring minds would like to know;)

As for catching tuna quick as opposed to not so quick and getting more dollars, I don't buy it. I've had triple headers and caught all 3, fish 1 took 20 minutes, fish 2 took 50 minutes and fish 3 took 12 hours. Fish 1 and 2 made it on the ice while we where fighting number 3. Fish 3 never even made it on the ice and we just left him on the deck for the 15 hour ride home. And guess what.....fish 1 and 2 were junk and 3 yielded us one of our highest prices for the season. This is just one example and the opposite of the above has also happenend. You just get what you get and there's not much you can do about it. Most of the burned fish I have had happens at the side of the boat when they are tied off and "kick" for a long time and then just expire.

As for drag, if you fish a light drag it takes forever and you subject yourself to chaffing them off or just never getting them to the boat because the line just keeps coming off the reel...one foot in and one foot out....no thanks. We use a lot of drag and pull a hook here and there....it just was not in your deck of cards for the day. Too bad, suck it up and start fishing again.

As for the show and some of the drama and editing, we are all fishermen on this board and can see the finest detail. Keep in mind the editors are not fishermen and we are, I know but some of the scenes have nothing to do with being a fishermen....I don't know what to say about that. This show was made for your average Joe in Kansas, the masses, and not for fishermen. If it was for fishermen it would be on ESPN. The ratings tell the story and not the message boards. The last episode grew by a factor of 2, almost twice as many watched this past weekend compared to the episode before and the ratings have been good since day one. Also there has been stiff competition this season on sunday night and the ratings have still done very well.

As for Googans, I was once one too at one point in time and we all were and some may still be. Everyone is entitiled to fish in the ocean, however if you were on my boat and had boats anchor on you every day, all day, all season, you would get a little upset too. Nothing goes further than good judgement and common sense. No one needs to be 5 boat lenghts away from someone. Sure I do it to Kevin and Kevin does it to me. It's all in good fun, however and I'd rather have Kevin next to me instead of someone I don't know. Kevin will get out of the way in a heartbeat and have his anchor hauled up too.

Look at "Wicked Tuna" as an episode of "Desperate Housewives", except they give all the cast a pretty shinny rod and reel and tell them to go and catch tuna. Look at it and laugh or grind your teeth and call that guy an A%$ or don't look at it at all.

Thanks for watching and plenty of big fish to come.

Gotta go and make some turns in the snow with the Pinhead for a couple days.

pulltaug 03-06-2013 11:53 AM

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Dave
I love the show and love what you guys do. I actually don't mind the scenes outside of the fishing...the pranks, the fight on the dock, the stories, marciano getting payback from the thresher etc. good stuff and good insight into the lives of guys who catch fish the old fashion way. i guess i am partial because I am a fisherman...I want to see more fish.
I hope the ratings do well and you guys succeed.

as for googans - you are right - Have you ever been to Sandy Hook Bay on a Saturday during Fluke season! I call it the Fiber Glass Forest! You think one guy anchoring too close to you is a problem...try 40 guys chasing party boats and drifting within feet of each other!

Good luck with this storm and looking forward to a new episode!
Tight Lines

jerseyhunter 03-06-2013 05:41 PM

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Well said pulltag. And as far as drag is concerned, It's one thing fishing for sport and another for for the $ . You would be a amased of what kind of lines and snoods we used set lining Cod back in the day. Let alone the winch.;)

Pennsy Guy 03-06-2013 11:30 PM

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Dave, thanks for the info...guess the catch ratio is a lot better than what the show would have one believe...that's a relief. I get scared when I've got color--that's when I really want the fish..if it breaks off sight unseen, it's not quite as bad...Looking forward to the rest of the series and your success...

action 03-09-2013 07:56 PM

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Why not boats out of green harbor on the show good tuna fisherman old school:confused:

SaltLife1980 03-09-2013 08:40 PM

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I was watching a repeat.. How come the Christina folded the tape to make the fish 73inches.. Hmmmmmm.. You can see him fold it over the tail and then show the size

Tunatales01 03-10-2013 05:45 AM

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Why is it tuna.com says they are hooked up to
A mako and they show a blueshark on
The line and they say mako then they show a
Mako jumoing then back to a blueshark on
The line. Very poor editing in this show.
Also why does billy have to run to the cabin
And get on vhf and say hooked up. More worried
About letting people know he is on a fish then trying
To get a fish in the boat. Pinwheel in my opinion is
A captain that is gii g 100 percent effort and is hardcore.
Tuna.com is also o e of the best but pinsheel shows he wants
Fish bad. Great show just horrible editing.

SaltLife1980 03-10-2013 11:25 PM

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Looks like the Pin Wheel is giving Tuna.com a run for their money.. Tyler got a nice fish!

parrotinct 03-10-2013 11:31 PM

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Pinwheel was fishing on George's in the bad weather right, there was quite few lights out there on the horizon that looked alot like land. As they pull up anchor to steam home after thier fish, wow did that water lay down quick.

SaltLife1980 03-10-2013 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by parrotinct
Pinwheel was fishing on George's in the bad weather right, there was quite few lights out there on the horizon that looked alot like land. As they pull up anchor to steam home after thier fish, wow did that water lay down quick.


Most likely the lights are all the larger ships fishing that area.. Its a spot that a lot of the commercial guys fish.. but who knows with the editing that goes on.. never know whats really going on

tombanjo 03-11-2013 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TUNA.COM
As for the show and some of the drama and editing, we are all fishermen on this board and can see the finest detail. Keep in mind the editors are not fishermen and we are, I know but some of the scenes have nothing to do with being a fishermen....I don't know what to say about that. This show was made for your average Joe in Kansas, the masses, and not for fishermen. If it was for fishermen it would be on ESPN. The ratings tell the story and not the message boards. The last episode grew by a factor of 2, almost twice as many watched this past weekend compared to the episode before and the ratings have been good since day one. Also there has been stiff competition this season on sunday night and the ratings have still done very well.

Look at "Wicked Tuna" as an episode of "Desperate Housewives", except they give all the cast a pretty shinny rod and reel and tell them to go and catch tuna. Look at it and laugh or grind your teeth and call that guy an A%$ or don't look at it at all.

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Agree about the target audience but we're not talking about the finer points here. The editing is sloppy by any standards and should be better. Even some guy in Nebraska that never held a rod can figure out there were two different color reels cranking in the same fish. Glad ratings are up because I do enjoy the show but when you lose the air of authenticity even the ignorant pick up on it and eventually drift away. Sad part is it's unnecessary as there's plenty of footage to get at least the same color reel right. Lazy. And when people see that they must be wondering what else are they lying about?

sportfishingusa 03-11-2013 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tombanjo
Agree about the target audience but we're not talking about the finer points here. The editing is sloppy by any standards and should be better. Even some guy in Nebraska that never held a rod can figure out there were two different color reels cranking in the same fish. Glad ratings are up because I do enjoy the show but when you lose the air of authenticity even the ignorant pick up on it and eventually drift away. Sad part is it's unnecessary as there's plenty of footage to get at least the same color reel right. Lazy. And when people see that they must be wondering what else are they lying about?

Tombanjo, did you notice last night pinwheel was fishing georges, yet when they showed them fighting the fish at night in the rain you could see the lights from land in the background? hahahaha

Ol Pedro 03-11-2013 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sportfishingusa
Tombanjo, did you notice last night pinwheel was fishing georges, yet when they showed them fighting the fish at night in the rain you could see the lights from land in the background? hahahaha

Sportie , I was thinking that it looked like the Fleet at the 100 Square on a weekend in September . Picketline fishing . It wasn't that bad out there .

sportfishingusa 03-11-2013 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ol Pedro
Sportie , I was thinking that it looked like the Fleet at the 100 Square on a weekend in September . Picketline fishing . It wasn't that bad out there .



aww hell no, the 100 square is walkable from boat to boat then hahaha

i looked and looked and rewinded it a lot, that is definitely land i would think, if not it is a hell of a lot of boats, not sure that many head to georges, i would say lights that bright would be a ton of boats in that area, maybe im just nuts for even looking and caring. hahah

Ol Pedro 03-11-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sportfishingusa
aww hell no, the 100 square is walkable from boat to boat then hahaha

i looked and looked and rewinded it a lot, that is definitely land i would think, if not it is a hell of a lot of boats, not sure that many head to georges, i would say lights that bright would be a ton of boats in that area, maybe im just nuts for even looking and caring. hahah

What is wrong with me ? I started to count them at one point and my Wife threw an empty waterbottle at me ! I was at like 13 when it beaned me . It's just a show .

sportfishingusa 03-11-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ol Pedro
What is wrong with me ? I started to count them at one point and my Wife threw an empty waterbottle at me ! I was at like 13 when it beaned me . It's just a show .


hahahaha my wife looked at me, said when is this crap over, mudcats is coming on next.. now i know why i fell in love with her. haha

Ol Pedro 03-11-2013 11:33 AM

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hahahaha my wife looked at me, said when is this crap over, mudcats is coming on next.. now i know why i fell in love with her. haha

Mudcats ! My Wife never misses it . I guess that mine's a Keepah Too !

Pennsy Guy 03-11-2013 10:45 PM

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We all agree that the editing is really poor but, at least something good has come from the first season---boats have new gear-rods n' reels- and did you notice the boats all have fresh paint and cabins/cockpits are shipshape this year..Tuna.com is now F/V Tuna.com...nice upgrades on 'em...now, let's have some fish or is each show going to have a theme...tournament...Googans--sharks...weather...fish?
I'll keep watching...'course I watch bassin'--sometimes...

SaltLife1980 03-12-2013 01:13 AM

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DAVE!! we all know you have the Skill to kick it up a level and take the lead!!!

TUNA.COM 03-12-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sportfishingusa
Tombanjo, did you notice last night pinwheel was fishing georges, yet when they showed them fighting the fish at night in the rain you could see the lights from land in the background? hahahaha

There can be 100 boats at George's when you combine an okay forecast with the weekend. The only lights you saw were metal halide on the the top of wheelhouses and not Fenway Park.

TUNA.COM 03-12-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SaltLife1980
DAVE!! we all know you have the Skill to kick it up a level and take the lead!!!

If you take away the expenses incurred with some boats having to run to George's to catch fish the numbers are quite different. It's not what you gross each trip it's how much you earn. Not saying I don't go there, but why travel 170 miles when I can do the same at 17 miles and only $100 fuel tab. Just gotta work a little harder to catch that more educated tuna.

jmurr711 03-12-2013 11:08 AM

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Dave it seems like as soon as you guys land 1 now you head back to port, when i thought in years past you guys kept fishing? is that just editing or is it not worth the risk of the fish losing its quality?

jerseyhunter 03-12-2013 12:19 PM

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Was wondering the same thing. Why go home with one if the bite is on? Isn't that why you load up on ice and tuna bags?


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