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Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?

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Originally Posted by Skolmann (Post 343679)

Russ A. sounds as if he had 1 too many Rusty Nails.

His info is as flawed as fisheries management.Even his size limits in his own state of NY are incorrect.The second bass has to be over 40" not 42".I in no way want to see a one fish limit.If I did not charter I would not be so worried.As for as keeping bass,i kept one all year.The two of us ate half of it.This bass was 32".When I take friends and family we take two fish for six people.

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?

I usually keep what we will eat or if others ask for fish I will put them in the box. These are the smaller legal fish, I prefer not the 30+lbrs we get in the spring. I fish for fun and not in the business but I can't help but wonder if the "limits++++++" posts, and the pictures of a dock full of cows plus bonus tags are being monitored and viewed on the site by god only knows who and used as a basis for how every boat does daily. I understand it's 100% legal and great advertising but does it hurt more then it helps? Have noticed a lot of the charters on here have scaled back the reports a bit and the photos with piles of fish are gone. Maybee I am being paranoid lol but just food for thought!!

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?

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Originally Posted by Irish Jigger (Post 343684)

I usually keep what we will eat or if others ask for fish I will but them in the box. These are the smaller legal fish, I prefer not the 30+lbrs we get in the spring. I fish for fun and not in the business but I can't help but wonder if the "limits++++++" posts and the pictures of a dock full of cows plus bonus tags are being monitored and viewed on the site by god only knows who and used as a basis for how every boat does daily. I understand it's 100% legal and great advertising but does it hurt more then it helps? Have noticed a lot of the charters on here have scaled back the reports a bit and the photos of piles of fish are gone. Maybee I am being paranoid lol but just food for thought!!

When i started my charter boat business I was guilty of posting pictures of dead fish on the dock.Action pictures are always the best.Release pictures are even better.We as charter boat captains should not have to prove our catch with pictures.What picture could be better than a youngster fighting a big bass with a grin from ear to ear?The internet is a doubled edged sword when it comes to posting pictures.Just think about it,salt water magazines only publish action photos.It is high time we all change our ways!

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?

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Originally Posted by RussA (Post 343547)

The spawning stock are from 28"-45" so roughly 12-40lbs.

So all you guys hammering the stripers day in and out are the cause for the slower striper seasons as of late.

This is pure fact. You can't blame the commercial fishery on this at all.

You seriously dont' believe what you have said. Just look at the attached and see what the commercial fleet is doing down south. This is North Carolina. Virginia is just as bad.

http://www.northcarolinasportsman.co...ls.php?id=1722

Dixie has not had a good bass run in three years. My buddies that fish winter bass in virginia beach and outerbanks have said it has been very slow the last few years.

Ever see the rod/reel commercial striped bass fishing fleet off Chatam, MA in July? I kid you not...twenty-thirty feet between boats at times. I was having a conversation with guys on the boat next to me without raising my voice.

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?

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Originally Posted by Capt Sal Cathy Sea Charters (Post 343690)

agree...keep a fish or two for dinner...want to stroke your ego at the dock....hang flags like the marlin guys do. flags could just be numbers representing weights of fish released..first flag is an upside down bass representing species...following flags..25,30,40, 50...people will get it. honor system...the bs artists will be flushed out real quick.

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Originally Posted by O'Connor (Post 343709)

.hang flags like the marlin guys do. flags could just be numbers representing weights of fish released..first flag is an upside down bass representing species...following flags..25,30,40, 50...people will get it.

Hands down best idea ever! Although I personally wouldn't need any flag over "20". Great concept, would love to see it catch on.

For the record, I'd fish for bass even if you couldn't keep any.

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?

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Originally Posted by fishunt (Post 343616)

1 bass would be fine with me. just leave the fluke limits alone:D

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Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?

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Originally Posted by RussA (Post 343637)

It's simple, I am from NY and the slot limit was only for a short time. To nitpick is folly.

Your state allows Omega Protein to harvest bunker, NY doesn't.

The above are facts, the only thing that was corrected was there was a slot limit and I said wow I didn't realize.

You can blame the bunker boats all you want but the facts are the for hire boats are doing the most damage. This is a fact. Show me where you have seen 100's of dead stripers from bunker boats in NY Harbor or the Raritan bay, you can't because you are talking about other states.

There are 2 main spawning areas, The Chesapeake and the Hudson. The delaware bay may have some fish but the two areas I just named are the primary areas we catch our bass from.

From March through December for hire boats from NC to MA wreak havoc on both stocks of fish. They are even caught in the eeze illegally.

These are facts you can not dispute. In the 70's and 80's it was commercial, in the 2000's its the for hire boats and private boats.

Sure you can say but I saw a picture of dead stripers and so on, do you know how much bunker I saw with nothing on them all summer long while fluking? an ungodly number. So the bunker boats are doing their own damage to the bunker and I for one want them gone, but this is for another thread.

In order to fix the problems Private and for hire boats need to start policing themselves. I for one am sick of getting dictated to what I can catch and how many I can keep and when I can catch them... How about you?

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Originally Posted by Capt Sal Cathy Sea Charters (Post 343648)

Russa You keep bashing NJ for no good reason.As far as our state allowing bunker to be sold for Omega you are dead wrong.The bunker boats have a ''B'' on them and that means bait only.As far as NY not allowing Omega boats wrong again.Reduction boats are not allowed inside the the three mile line and that means State waters.NY has nothing to say about federal waters.NY does not allow purse sieners inside the three mile line or Raritan Bay or Long Island Sound.Get your info in order.I have seen stripers floating in Raritan Bay after being dumped over by purse sieners netting bunker.Weakfish also were crushed.

Next this post is about a striper limit and angler participation not your NY verses NJ BS.This is a NJ site and a good one so let it go and stop hijacking posts for your own agenda!

I want to thank everyone that responded.True sportsman on this site IMHO

Sal you are a very passionate man, good for you! :) I never bashed any state, you really need to take a breath and read what I am saying, all I am stating are my views with some facts as well. I said NY doesn't allow Them in NY waters, you should re-read what I wrote I quoted it for you.

Sal My info is very much in order, like I said take a few deep breaths and read what I wrote. ;)

You have seen all this stuff because your state allows it. You see that is a fact, not an opinion.

NY saw a long time ago what commercial fishing with nets does to fish stocks, NJ well they will learn soon enough.

This isn't a NY vs NJ thing this is about us as fishermen coming together to fight for our right to sustainable fishing and actually getting useful numbers to work with, and models to calculate said numbers.

You want it to be a NY vs NJ thing I get it, thats why you keep bringing that point up. I want all fishermen from our waters to come together so we have a voice. I see the big picture, not the small one where people like to be isolationists and say we know whats good for us in our state and keep fishermen divided.

You need to start thinking about the future of our fishing and not your own state only because you will suffer what NY went through for years only you will lose a hell of a lot more boats, thats a fact.

United we stand! Divided we fall... You are falling for the ploy to get fishermen divided, don't.

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?

What is this nonsense " 1 fish"? The days you get out, maybe take a skunk or the weather keeps you tied to the dock. It all averages out. Catch what you want, keep what you want. NO ROD AND REEL SEASON WILL EVER BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE B.S. SEASON WE ARE BEING FORCE FED. F' EM ALL !

CATCH AND RELEASE AT YOUR OWN DESCRESION

OR

CATCH AND RELEASE THE FILETED CARCASSES.

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?

It's multiple factors at play here. Guys trying hard to save the bass so we don't have a repeat of the 70's. Loss of habitat, loss of spawning stocks, poaching, fish kills, commercial by catch and so on. I think this is the tip of the iceberg. Where this road will lead us no one knows, I just hope we are collectively moving in the right direction for future generations.
I think rod and reels guys have a deeper passion for fish that live in the sea unlike our commercial counter parts. We would like to be able to pass the fishing torch to our children and grand children, and hope they do the same for future generations to come.

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?

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Originally Posted by RussA (Post 343777)

Russ, You sound like a good person.I just do not agree with some of things you say are fact.Ny is way behind and should of had more organizations like the RFA fighting for them years ago.I do not want recreational fisherman divided!We all want the best for our home states.As I res0nd to this I am in Florida,they too got screwed!Grouper and Red Snapper are closed.We recs are all taking a beating no matter what state we live in.What we need is an organization as powerful as the NRA.I am a life member and we do have lobbyists working for us in Washington!We all need to do our part and maybe these discussions here will help in the long run.

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Originally Posted by RussA (Post 343777)

don't wast you time with there nj guys..

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?

One plus the bonus tag? Either way I'd still fish. :o

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?

Yes, of course I'll still fish. I love being out on the water, weather on my boat, someone else's, the beach ,a jetty, or pier somewhere. As for keeping Stripers, I would love to see the slot fish come back.

Now, when some guys jump aboard a head boat without knowing the regulations, they get made at the Captain & Crew when they can't keep a fish, when if fact it's the governments fault.

On 6 pack Charters, I find the camaraderie amongst friends, as well as splitting up the catch so everyone eats good, does out weigh the ridiculous regulations that apply to some species.

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?

Ill still go. One fish a day is plenty of meat for me. Catch and release the rest of the day.

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Originally Posted by makosnax (Post 343614)

The slot was great, they were better eating. I have no desire to eat a 20# plus striper, tastes like crap. Let em all go.

The slot was great to get a whole fish to stuff and bake, During the slot years I often traded a larger fish for smaller slot for feeding 4 people a great meal.

A 10,20,30# striper all taste the same. Fact, so you either like striper or you don't, but 20# "tastes like crap" is totally bogus - don't ask me, ask restaurants that serve them to high paying customers. They pay the same price per pound.

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My two cents. Fished 11 times last year for Stripers. With the bonus tag I took home 23 Bass. Three trips I didn't bring anything home...didn't catch and caught a bunch over the line.

Moving forward I would still go and follow the rules no matter how absurd they may be. It does make you think twice before commiting to a charter...

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?

I too love to fish and will keep fishing for stripers no matter what. I find it hard explaining to my grandchildren why we are not allowed to keep more fish for the table.

Re: If they make the Striped Bass limit one will you still go?

For me its more about being out there than it is what I am bringing home. That being said i do enjoy eating my catch which I do follow the regs, though I disagree with them like most. To answer your question i would still fish if the bag limit was reduced to 1 fish.