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Chico 01-21-2013 10:57 AM

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Thanks for the consice reply Pedro!! You are right on also about the two hour VS two day fish!! Fishing buddy in Fla. commands higher price for his grouper because his fish are handled properly and only hours old when delivered to the wholesaler.

ninodog10309 01-21-2013 03:28 PM

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Started a post about marcianos reel. Didn't see that it was on this post. Anyway. I saw that. Lol

Blind Archer 01-21-2013 05:38 PM

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Calling it a "fishing soap opera " really nailed it. Is there some financial network bonus at series end for the most / biggest fish or are these guys just all about how great they are. Can't say I miss Paul either. Though there is still a lot of sensoring going on, It sounded like I was watching a fleet of garbage trucks backing up last season. My advice to any whiner is "Shut up and fish !"

SaltLife1980 01-21-2013 06:24 PM

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I think Pin Wheel is going to put up some nice numbers this season! He is driven and has the heart for it.. He is a die hard fishermen.. But we all know that Tuna.com is the Champ!!

And to the Boat Christina and the other harpoon boats.. your all chumps! Need a plane to find the fish then u just drive up on em and spike them in the back... Thats Weak in my book! Rod and Reel should be the only way..

Gerry Zagorski 01-21-2013 10:44 PM

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Good to see Paul, Dave and Sandros fishing together again in 2nd show. These guys have some chemistry.

I have a new found respect for Pin Wheel now too... Kid's got game risking it going out the the Banks... No risk, no reward but you have to balance it.... At the end of the day it's not how much you make, it's how much you keep...

Heading up to fish with Dave and the crew in June and hoping he doesn't take us out to the Banks. Getting too old (and smart) for those long trips :)

Pennsy Guy 01-22-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Pedro
Short and fat is better than long and lean . Two hour old fish vs two day old . The harpoon fish are in better shape due to a much shorter fight . The longer the fight the more lactic acid in the fish . There are also differences in the Brokers . Bluefin are conditioned to eat bycatch from the Draggers/Scallopers . Also they don't show the live bait that the crews are fishing for when they put them out . Bluefin love Whiting/Hake/Ling/Herring/Mackerel .

Right on Pete..last year they mentioned it once...every once in a while they show a mate using a light rig but never say anything about it anymore...we know but the general population doesn't...oh, well........

SaltLife1980 01-22-2013 05:32 PM

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Fishing live bait is the way to go.. You will see every time they are jigging or bait fishing for ling,hake,cod,herring,macks... Put them out there and a giant sees it.. Cant resist! or so you hope soo. haha

Ol Pedro 01-22-2013 05:41 PM

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Right on Pete..last year they mentioned it once...every once in a while they show a mate using a light rig but never say anything about it anymore...we know but the general population doesn't...oh, well........

Chuckie ,People Forget that Not so long ago we used to set up inshore a little and catch Bluefin when the Yellowfin didn't want to play . We still use livies when we can get them for Yellowfin . I keep looking at the pic of my little 85 lber that I caught some 12-14 years ago . You and John put a hurting on the Yellowfin that trip . Even Todd Burger got um ! We finally get it wired and start to catch them up to 200lbs then we get shut down/limited to 1 over/1under by our Goverment .

capt74 01-22-2013 07:57 PM

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Pete, Wait till you see what YOUR PRESIDENT has instore for you. It's all about zones.

cukes 01-22-2013 09:00 PM

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A lot of scene switching on this show between reels and sounders, definitely not telling everything about how they catch, which is fine.

Pennsy Guy 01-22-2013 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by capt74
Pete, Wait till you see what YOUR PRESIDENT has instore for you. It's all about zones.

Afraid you're right, Greg...Obama=zones=Pew=PHEW=makes me want to puck---if you catch my drift.....

Pete, I agree 100%...and don't forget shadowing the scallopers, guess it's been 15+/- years since doing that...BFT is my favorite eating tuna...almost got pulled overboard by one:eek: but that one tasted extra good;)

Ol Pedro 01-23-2013 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pennsy Guy
Afraid you're right, Greg...Obama=zones=Pew=PHEW=makes me want to puck---if you catch my drift.....

Pete, I agree 100%...and don't forget shadowing the scallopers, guess it's been 15+/- years since doing that...BFT is my favorite eating tuna...almost got pulled overboard by one:eek: but that one tasted extra good;)

The West Coast Party Boats are taking a beating because of the zones . Two of my friends won't fish California Saltwater anymore . I pray that this isn't the last Generation of Watermen . God Bless our Fishermen be they Comm. or Sporties . May their Traditions carry on .

TUNA.COM 01-23-2013 06:11 PM

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It looks like cod and haddock fishing will be a thing of the past in the not too distant future here in Mass. Thanks to Jane Lubchenco who destroyed a fishery that was completely rebuilt with her catch shares program. Mission accomplished, now they can have 2 - 3 conglomerates running the entire fishery in time.

Most likely the 50 - 60 ground fish charters that I do alone each season, along with the other many other charter and headboats have done in the past will no longer be.

tropics 01-23-2013 06:26 PM

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Capt. Dave what are the regs for keeping this year?
Cod
Haddock
Pollock
Looking forward to seeing the rest of the show.

TUNA.COM 01-23-2013 06:31 PM

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Sorry to say I don't know yet. They will probably have a ruling just before the season opens. Just in time for all of us to send our deposits back and tell everyone we can't take them fishing.

tropics 01-23-2013 06:35 PM

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Sorry to say I don't know yet. They will probably have a ruling just before the season opens. Just in time for all of us to send our deposits back and tell everyone we can't take them fishing.

Capt. Dave I really hope they do not do any more damage to our lively hoods, or love of fishing.

TUNA.COM 01-23-2013 06:38 PM

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Capt. Dave I really hope they do not do any more damage to our lively hoods, or love of fishing.

Sad to say they really could care less. I can move on and do my other job full time, however many of my neighbors up here it's all they have and know.

Joey Dah Fish 01-23-2013 07:28 PM

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Our government sucks!!!

SaltLife1980 01-23-2013 10:29 PM

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Such crap!

O'Connor 01-24-2013 01:12 AM

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I thought the capt on the hard merchandise was fishing an Okuma Makaira 80. I could have sworn I used the same reel in PEI this past September. They should do a show up there...I have screen shots with 10-15 giants on the finder at the same time. ridiculous.

sorry to hear about the regs Dave. Hope all is well.

ninodog10309 01-24-2013 08:57 PM

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Interesting... She is Obama endorsed..... Need to say nothing more
Another reason for me to "strongly dislike" this guy.



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Originally Posted by TUNA.COM
It looks like cod and haddock fishing will be a thing of the past in the not too distant future here in Mass. Thanks to Jane Lubchenco who destroyed a fishery that was completely rebuilt with her catch shares program. Mission accomplished, now they can have 2 - 3 conglomerates running the entire fishery in time.

Most likely the 50 - 60 ground fish charters that I do alone each season, along with the other many other charter and headboats have done in the past will no longer be.


howarda780 01-24-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ninodog10309
Interesting... She is Obama endorsed..... Need to say nothing more
Another reason for me to "strongly dislike" this guy.

I can not imagine what Pt. Pleasant, Pt. Judith, and Gloucester will look like if all this gets pushed through the pipe.

Gerry Zagorski 01-27-2013 11:13 AM

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Wow... Us little people who pay all the taxes take it in the shorts again from the very people who were elected and sworn to protect our interests. SCREW THEM!!

This government of ours is getting way too big and involved in legislating in areas where they have no expertise and in many where they don't belong. They are becoming way too powerful yet seem to have no accountability to their consstituants.

Time to take back our country.

TUNA.COM 01-27-2013 11:20 AM

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What happened to the Wicked Tuna topic? Fisheries management screws everything up.

Fishguts 01-27-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TUNA.COM
It looks like cod and haddock fishing will be a thing of the past in the not too distant future here in Mass. Thanks to Jane Lubchenco who destroyed a fishery that was completely rebuilt with her catch shares program. Mission accomplished, now they can have 2 - 3 conglomerates running the entire fishery in time.

Most likely the 50 - 60 ground fish charters that I do alone each season, along with the other many other charter and headboats have done in the past will no longer be.

Wow that Jane lady collapsed fully rebuilt stocks in less than 4 years? Sorry to hear that. How much did they increase the landings over 8 years ago to be able to collapse a "rebuilt and healthy stock" in less than 4 years? Wow and I thought the last few years had lower landings , bag limits, seasons, limited entry and total TAL. I know the recs and commercial guys have been screaming the last 4 years over restriction but now I read that Jane is responsible for collapsing a healthy rebuilt fishery and she was able to do it in less than 4 years wow.

Fish_Harder 01-27-2013 06:01 PM

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I agree with Dave. Lets get back on the Wicked Tuna topic. What are the odds Tyler gets his ass kicked fishing by tuna.com and his ass also kicked at the dock? i am hoping both story lines happen. That kid is good for the show but man I hate him.

go Tuna.com

SaltLife1980 01-27-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TUNA.COM
What happened to the Wicked Tuna topic? Fisheries management screws everything up.


Your rite Dave.. lets get back to the topic!!

Dave how dare the Bounty Hunter take your Spot!! They marked your spot then just jumped in!! Not Cool!!!

Sharkyispy 01-27-2013 10:15 PM

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So the Bounty Hunter mate says he's worried about the charter guys who are inexperienced and losing a big fish and costing him money... I get it... but why then are you taking a group of guys who are paying for your charter? Not something you should be saying publicly on TV. Now Capt Bill s saying the same thing.........AND then they lose a nice tuna by themselves w/o a charter????

ninodog10309 01-27-2013 11:48 PM

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i just dont want to see poor editing anymore,.. Marciano fightin 1 fsh with 4 reels..

LOL

SaltLife1980 01-28-2013 12:12 AM

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Another Epic night of wicked tuna! Love this show!! Im glad there was no harpoon boats on tonight! Be a man and fish with a rod and reel!

The Bill TM 01-28-2013 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharkyispy
So the Bounty Hunter mate says he's worried about the charter guys who are inexperienced and losing a big fish and costing him money... I get it... but why then are you taking a group of guys who are paying for your charter? Not something you should be saying publicly on TV. Now Capt Bill s saying the same thing.........AND then they lose a nice tuna by themselves w/o a charter????

I was just fishing in Mexico on a charter and something similar to this happened to me. I was pulling up a big grouper and the captain thought I was just an inexperienced fisherman struggling with a small fish on. It wasn't until the slob started to surface and he knew it was nice money in his pocket that he stopped laughing at me and took it seriously. We landed it, then when the line dropped back down to the bottom, we hooked up again and the mate tried to set the hook without setting the drag properly and the leader snapped. Now I know the market for grouper and bluefin tuna are drastically different the principle here is the same. Fishing is fishing and not catching, no matter the experience level lost fish is part of fishing and can happen to anyone.
With that said, I feel that when you book a charter the captain and crew have an obligation to the experience of the customer and any fish caught that can be sold is an added bonus. You can't have your fish cake and eat it too.

Sorry for the rant guys, love the show and happy the Tuna.com isn't portrayed as the villains of the Massachusetts seas anymore, those Pin Wheel guys need to shut up and learn from the veterans instead of playing childish antics that make the fishing community as a whole look poorly.

Ol Pedro 01-28-2013 02:33 PM

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No one is immuned to #'s poaching . It happens all the time offshore on Bottom trips . Some boats leave early to steal your spot from the prior days fishing . It's frustrating when you travel 60+ miles only to find someone on your spot . You just hope that there are othe pieces close . It's just part of fishing . Never leave port without a plan B and C .

Jay 01-28-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bill TM
I was just fishing in Mexico on a charter and something similar to this happened to me. I was pulling up a big grouper and the captain thought I was just an inexperienced fisherman struggling with a small fish on. It wasn't until the slob started to surface and he knew it was nice money in his pocket that he stopped laughing at me and took it seriously. We landed it, then when the line dropped back down to the bottom, we hooked up again and the mate tried to set the hook without setting the drag properly and the leader snapped. Now I know the market for grouper and bluefin tuna are drastically different the principle here is the same. Fishing is fishing and not catching, no matter the experience level lost fish is part of fishing and can happen to anyone.
With that said, I feel that when you book a charter the captain and crew have an obligation to the experience of the customer and any fish caught that can be sold is an added bonus. You can't have your fish cake and eat it too.

Sorry for the rant guys, love the show and happy the Tuna.com isn't portrayed as the villains of the Massachusetts seas anymore, those Pin Wheel guys need to shut up and learn from the veterans instead of playing childish antics that make the fishing community as a whole look poorly.

I hear where your coming from. It's a TV show, they have to make it interesting. There trying to play actors, I wouldn't take it to heart. Makes it interesting.

SaltLife1980 01-28-2013 05:23 PM

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The bounty hunter has to make a dollar where he can.. and yes it can get frustrating when you have first timers out fishing and they keep loosing fish.. But have to remember they are paying the bills by coming out fishing with you..

Ol Pedro 01-28-2013 05:54 PM

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Whats up with Pinwheel saying that Greensticks are something new . They have been used by Comm. trollers out West for quite some time . I guess that some people in California think that Spreader bars are new too .

SaltLife1980 01-28-2013 06:03 PM

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Whats up with Pinwheel saying that Greensticks are something new . They have been used by Comm. trollers out West for quite some time . I guess that some people in California think that Spreader bars are new too .


lol.. i was thinking the same thing.. they have been around forever

Joey Dah Fish 01-28-2013 06:06 PM

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I have yet to go out on a canyon trip and not see a green stick working. Let's give him a nick name. Pin Head is Fishin on Pin Wheel :)

SaltLife1980 01-28-2013 06:27 PM

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I have yet to go out on a canyon trip and not see a green stick working. Let's give him a nick name. Pin Head is Fishin on Pin Wheel :)


lol

Chico 01-28-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Pedro
No one is immuned to #'s poaching . It happens all the time offshore on Bottom trips . Some boats leave early to steal your spot from the prior days fishing . It's frustrating when you travel 60+ miles only to find someone on your spot . You just hope that there are othe pieces close . It's just part of fishing . Never leave port without a plan B and C .

Several times when I chartered out of Key Largo we had "weekend warriors" follow the boat out of the marina looking to follow us to the snapper/grouper fishing spots. The Capt. would take us into an area with really sticky bottom, drop his anchor (a thin, re-bar style, with a breakaway for easy release) and we would wait until the following boat would set his dansforth anchor in the bottom. We would then pull anchor and slowly drive away as the other guy was freaking out, realizing his anchor was stuck!! Once in a while, the capt would return to the spot at the end of the day and with his skill and anchor ball, retrieve the abandoned anchor!! Served them right!!! Good episode of Wicked Tuna, seems everyone can end up fishing someone elses spot!!

Ol Pedro 01-29-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Joey Dah Fish
I have yet to go out on a canyon trip and not see a green stick working. Let's give him a nick name. Pin Head is Fishin on Pin Wheel :)

I was thinking the same nickname ! Now we have Tricky Dave and Pinhead .


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