Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

RIGHT ON SPORTS!!!!they are kicking 94 year old ladies out of the houses they were born in.you think they give flying sh*t about some peeps fishing.

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Sport and Dunker.... Everyone on this board is certainly entitled to their opinions, but why discourage people who support the march and are attempting to make a difference??

I just don't get where the 2 of you are coming from... If you don't want to go or can't that's fine, but why seemingly go out of your way discourage others?

What are your motives here??

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

BD and Sportie , I guess that this means that you guys are not going to make it . I know that you both have stepped up on other issues in the past why not give us some suggestions ? I agree that we should vote out the people that are not doing their jobs . From the top down (Nobama) . When we vote as a block they will either listen or be packing their bags . I talked to that guy with the 40 at the last March . He was wearing a baseball cap with an American Flag on it and his OD Forest Camo Heavy Jacket . He said that he was a Vietman Vet and could we spare some change or a smoke . Just think that could be some of Us or our Friends if we don't do something soon .

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

thanks jerry,so because we share a differant point of view we are pointed out.we never said not to go only that we don't agree.good luck to all,i'm out

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Was not my intention to single the 2 of you out Bunker. Judging by your comments here I think you are both passionate about this issue and as a result are frustrated and don't think the March can make a difference.

It may not, but it certainly can't hurt and is better than doing nothing.

I respect your opinion and not wanting to attend, but I think we are all on the same team here in regards to protecting our rights to fish and think the people that choose to March deserve our support and encouragement.

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

I will be there !

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

I can totally understand why you think the way you do Ed. Every year the noose gets tighter around our necks. It seems we run into a damned if we do-damned if we don't scenario at every turn.

But as much as it seems we've got a mountain to climb, we have to start walking somewhere. Gay marriage wasn't granted overnight, a lot of people had to work very hard to make it happen. A lot of marches, a lot of lobbying, a lot of letter writing, just to get it in a couple states, not national change like we're looking for. We've marched once, gonna take a lot more than that to cause any change. I agree with pete that making clear that we have the ability to vote as a block and will vote for the candidates that make advocating for fishermen in washington a priority is a big step. I agree that this battle is one we shouldn't have to fight, but the fact of the matter is that we have to fight it, and I very much doubt that any politician of any party has a "magic wand" that they can wave that will fix this (or for that matter, any) issue, and we should heavily beware any politican who seems that they are promising us such (AKA gov. blubberbutt promising fisheries related change then selling us out to out-of-state omega protein in order to fuel his personal aims of running for POTUS in 2016).

We started walking in 2010, we gotta keep our issue in the fronts of the minds of these politicians. 2012 is a big election year and both parties recognize that every vote in every race will count. We need to make it clear that every last one of us that can make it to the polls will make it and that we will vote as a block in supporting candidates that support our right to fish, Democrat or Republican.

All of this is my own opinion, and I certainly respect the opinions of others on this matter and hope to see you all there in March at the march.

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

1ST,i have earned my rights.
2nd, who the hell is anyone here to judge anyone else.
i am using my "FREEDOM OF CHOICE" & "MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH".
if i might quote someone from this site"its an opinion,if ya don't like it don't read it."

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

BD , 1 ; this is about someone else taking away the rights that You Earned . 2; Disagreeing is not judging . Nothing good comes without some form of turmoil . 3;this is a Forum and you are encouraged to speak whats on your mind . 4; why take the time to type something that won't be read .

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

as long as i don't disagree with who????? look go march, have fun and do what"you" think is right.i see that like our own goverment if you disagree with
something"your being negitive".thank you for explaining this as i would have never understood it.is this site funded by acorn??

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

In stealing the words of pastor/activist Martin Niemoller who wrote about the heavy burden of guilt felt by many Germans after the holocaust, allow me to offer this…

When they came for the commercial fishermen,
I remained silent;
I was not a commercial fisherman.

When they locked up shares of red snapper,
I remained silent;
I was not a red snapper fisherman.

When they went after the party & charter boat operators,
I did not speak out;
I was not a for-hire captain.

When they closed off Pacific waters, Stellwagen & Biscayne Bay,
I remained silent;
I didn’t fish there.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out

On 3-21-12, we're all fishermen...united we can stand, divided we fall.[/QUOTE]

Perfect quote. I remember this quote and I thought of it just before I read your response.

And I can't tell you how many times someone said it doesn't matter. It does matter! You have to get involved. These anti-fishermmen HATE us. They cannot stand that someone is fishing on their Ocean. Or walking in their woods or climbing their mountain or canoeing on their river.

Did you read the part about the ENGO lobbists pretending to be fishermen? Telling congress that they oppose measures that would allow us more fishing oppertunities? That's not made up --I've seen it.

Do your best to get to this march however you can.

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Sorry to say I don't really care who's going or not going, or why or why not. I just want to know how much the busses are and where they are leaving from so I can sign up. I went to the last one and I'm going to this one.

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Thought for the Day

“You just can’t beat the person
who never gives up.”

~ Babe Ruth
(1895-1948)

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Unless 100,000 show up its not worth it! But if 100,000 show up.... it will will help get the message across! People = votes.... votes = being heard!

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

yea and once tAT happenes they will concider it a riot and shut tat shit down faster then anything... its impossiable to get ur voice or idea heard by anyone who matters.... tats why everyone breaks the law in one way or another..;)

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Amen! I am currently working on getting buses funded so the ride will be FREE. I am working with the owner of Academy buses whom we used last time (I have known Marc and Francis since I was a kid and their father owned the company) to get the best price possible and then get funding to cover as many buses as possible.

My parking lot will be used in Brielle again and NONE of my boats will be sailing that day. The Jamaica, Paramount, Jamaica Star and Riverboats will all be tied to the dock that day (riverboats would be tied up anyway in March!) so we will have ample parking available for however many buses I can get funding for.

Will be talking to the SSFFF board when Dave gets back next week from his fishing trip about using that site for booking the buses like I did last time. SSFFF is one of the organizers of this event again like they were the first time, thank you all for making it possible for us to fight for YOU, whether you think it is "worth it" or not!!

Please stay tuned to www.fishunited.com or www.keepfishermenfishing.com (same site) for details as they become available. I own the site and will update it as often as possible. (currently having issues with my host so some images may not show up at the moment but the content is still there)

Stay tuned, give me the next 7 days to iron out details but rest assured from at least Brielle there will be a bus or buses sailing if I have to pay for the frigging thing myself.

My children will not be attending school that day so they can attend the march, hope to see all of you there.

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Thank you Captain Tony for your relentless pursuit of justice. It will be a privilege to march with you again !!

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Capt Tony a Big Thanks !

See you on 3/21 !!!

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Hard for me to understand why it is so hard for our recreational anglers to see how important a good showing in Washington is for us.
Sure you have to take a day off work and in this economy its a little tougher but IF you value the fishing we have today and want to KEEP IT at the same level or better the Government needs to know enough people showing up speaks a little louder at voting time.

A showing of 5000 at the last one had fisherman from all over the United states who payed alot more in transportation fees, hotel rooms etc to show they CARED.

If just 10 percent of the recreational fisherman just from NJ alone showed up they probably would have to shut the the march down and how great would that be. I think couldnt get any better than that, as the media would go nuts.

pretty sad that the Gay groups can get more support for thier functions trying to gain something, that we as fisherman can for something thats being TAKEN AWAY.


come out and lets say it a little louder

I FISH I VOTE

.

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Hopefully this protest will draw real numbers, the kind that really garner the politicians attention.
I f we don't show up in respectable numbers then this fight will not go well! It's time to stand up & be counted , it's time to bring the fight to their doorstep.
Support the handful that fight for our right to fish on a daily basis , it's one day to support their efforts .
It could be now or never , so make it a point to attend!

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

I will be going.

If nothing else I can tie rigs on the bus ride up and back.

Thanks to the Bogans for arranging the buses.

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Any idea at what time the buses will get back to NJ?

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Last time we got back around 5-530 pm

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

The final word on the time and place for the Keep Fishermen Fishing rally - It will start at noon and run until about 3:00 pm on March 21 in Upper Senate Park adjacent to the US Capitol...


Will Post Bus Info/signup when it comes out!

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

only 3 hours long?? :confused:

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

3 hours is more than enough time.

I will be there to stand with my fellow anglers but I am afraid our voices will fall on deaf ears.

Both the senate and house, whoever is in town and not out campaigning, will most likely be focused on the debt issue, extension of the payroll tax and unemployment. Most likely these issues will be the hot topic that week.

Hopefully we will get enough press coverage to raise awareness.

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Only thing we can do is get as many people there as possible. Everything else is out of our control.

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

3 hours isnt gonna do shit.. plain and simple.. sry to say..

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Number of hours doesn't matter nearly as much as the number of people who show up, we're not tryin to be the next "#occupy" movement here. We get a ton of people there, we will be heard, no matter if we're there for an hour or we're there for a week.

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Three Hours will be enough . All it takes is a spark to set this thing off . The more sparks the bigger the flame . I was raised to stand up for what I believe in and to help my Friends when they are in need . To see a way of life die and just watch is a travesty . Vdub , what do you propose to do since you feel that our effort won't do shit ?

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Way more important issues going on in our county, then being able to fish.................... think about it..

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

I have thought about it and Working to support our Family's is Priority One . Unemplyment is one of the issues .If the Boats don't run then more Good Men and Women are unemployed . The whole Coastal Community suffers From the Hotels to the 7-11's meaning even more unemployment . I guess that you are not for Traditions or Family Business's . Are you willing to let the whole Fishing Industry go under ? Genersations of Fishermen have left our Ports to harvest the Oceans Bounty Both Sports and Commercial . Family Operated Business's passed on from Father to Son . I'm not ready to see the last of the Watermen .

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Well said my friend.

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

If it is a quiet day on the hill then you may see Frank, Schumer and Pallone come out and appease us. They will promise us the world but deliver nothing.

If both branches are debating changes to spending limits, the national debt, payroll tax or unemployment payments then we will be left outside to discuss the upcoming flounder season, lol.

I will be there but I am not expecting anything positive to come out of it. Maybe I am burnt out.

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Rich Pfish , You are willing to try . It will be an Honor to stand with you . We may be tired , We may be old ,but We Sure As Hell Are Not Laying Down ! Don't forget if they succeed they will be coming after you Freshwater Fishermen , Hunters , and Gun Owners . They will Devide and Conquer .

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

if only 10% of the salt water fisherman would take the day and show up for this , The buzz that it would create in Washington would be one remembered for years, but just as bad is if guys are not willing to stand up for the lifestyle they enjoy, it will just allow those in power to due as they see fit without a care about what you want

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Dan, as I said before, I will be there but I do not expect that one million of us would make a difference. It is an election year with many issues standing before congress. The rights of fishermen or the economic impact will mean little to the powers that be.

Hopefully I am wrong and that is why I will stand with my fellow anglers on the 21st. I refuse to give up the fight.

I worked in the industry and have been unemployed for 2 years so that is why I am so negative on the whole issue.

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Any word on a bus out of Atlantic Highlands?

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Working on it. Have a meeting tonight and once I know how many buses we can sponsor (make FREE) I will know what locations they will depart from. After that we can set up "for-hire" buses like last rally.

My meeting is tonight so details will be out by tomorrow evening or Friday morning at the latest.

Re: Fishermans Rally; Wash DC March 21, 2012
 

Thought for the Day

“All that’s necessary
for the forces of evil to win in the world
is for enough good men to do nothing.”

~ Edmund Burke
(1729-1797)