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catfishonthelake 05-27-2016 10:24 AM
Re: Changing leaders on braid
 
Uni-to-uni's and Albrights will not hold up going through the guides repeatedly. As is they are strong knots, but will weaken from abuse. If I'm using them I make the leader short enough to not have to bring the knot through the guide.

If I want a longer leader, I use an FG knot. On my smallwater carp rods I use a 7-foot top shot of 20-lb fluoro attached to my 30-lb. braid main line. I've landed multiple fish on the same rods this year pushing 25 pounds and the knots still look flawless. Had a nice fish take me 75 yards upriver on Sunday with the knot repeatedly coming in and out the tip from the give and take and it was fine.

rocknbass 05-27-2016 12:18 PM
Re: Changing leaders on braid
 
i use the alberto knot, 7 or 8 wraps in each direction...braid has to wrap around the fluoro or else there will be slippage.

i feel this works well for me . no issues.

Chrisper4694 05-27-2016 01:16 PM
Re: Changing leaders on braid
 
Coat the knot in super glue, it will protect it better. Modified Albright /Alberto knot has always worked for me if the tag end is cut completely off. I've tried the fg knot...slips every time and I can't figure out why :mad:

catfishonthelake 05-27-2016 03:17 PM
Re: Changing leaders on braid
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrisper4694 (Post 447459)
Coat the knot in super glue, it will protect it better. Modified Albright /Alberto knot has always worked for me if the tag end is cut completely off. I've tried the fg knot...slips every time and I can't figure out why :mad:
FG knot needs a lot more wraps for smaller diamenter lines. For attaching 80-lb. braid to 100-lb. leader, you can get away with 20 wraps. For smaller diameter lines, you need a minimum of 30. For attaching the 30-lb. braid to 20-lb. mono I use almost 40 wraps and never an issue. It's very tough to beat the slim profile of this knot. It takes a little practice, but worth it. Look for the YouTube video that demonstrates holding the mainline in your teeth. Much much easier.

Chrisper4694 05-27-2016 03:58 PM
Re: Changing leaders on braid
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by catfishonthelake (Post 447482)
FG knot needs a lot more wraps for smaller diamenter lines. For attaching 80-lb. braid to 100-lb. leader, you can get away with 20 wraps. For smaller diameter lines, you need a minimum of 30. For attaching the 30-lb. braid to 20-lb. mono I use almost 40 wraps and never an issue. It's very tough to beat the slim profile of this knot. It takes a little practice, but worth it. Look for the YouTube video that demonstrates holding the mainline in your teeth. Much much easier.
yeah i did all that, maybe i wasn't doing enough wraps. It got frustrating and i never had a problem with the modified albright so i just stopped bothering with it.

briansnat 05-27-2016 05:07 PM
Re: Changing leaders on braid
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by catfishonthelake (Post 447482)
FG knot needs a lot more wraps for smaller diamenter lines. For attaching 80-lb. braid to 100-lb. leader, you can get away with 20 wraps. For smaller diameter lines, you need a minimum of 30. For attaching the 30-lb. braid to 20-lb. mono I use almost 40 wraps and never an issue. It's very tough to beat the slim profile of this knot. It takes a little practice, but worth it. Look for the YouTube video that demonstrates holding the mainline in your teeth. Much much easier.
I think I'll rule out the FB as 30-40 wraps are a bit much. The Alberto looks pretty easy to tie. I may give that a shot. Thanks for the advice everyone.

briansnat 05-27-2016 05:09 PM
Re: Changing leaders on braid
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaltLife1980 (Post 447366)
How many twists are you doing on your albright knot? Another knot that is good is the double clinch
6 up and 6 back.

briansnat 05-27-2016 05:50 PM
Re: Changing leaders on braid
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by River Renegade (Post 447372)
Agree on using the Alberto knot, it's a solid one and gets the job done! Give it a try for yourself.

After watching that video, it seems I have been tying the Alberto knot all along. I found it online as an albright. Maybe 6 wraps isn't enough or perhaps my knot is a bit sloppy. No way it should be breaking off when setting the hook with the line I'm using.Thanks for the video.

rwp2101 05-27-2016 08:40 PM
Re: Changing leaders on braid
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by catfishonthelake (Post 447482)
FG knot needs a lot more wraps for smaller diamenter lines. For attaching 80-lb. braid to 100-lb. leader, you can get away with 20 wraps. For smaller diameter lines, you need a minimum of 30. For attaching the 30-lb. braid to 20-lb. mono I use almost 40 wraps and never an issue. It's very tough to beat the slim profile of this knot. It takes a little practice, but worth it. Look for the YouTube video that demonstrates holding the mainline in your teeth. Much much easier.
I do admit to having a bit of ocd when it comes to knots and always using at least thirty wraps with the fg knot, so maybe that's why I've never had any issues with it.

njdevils908 05-27-2016 10:34 PM
Re: Changing leaders on braid
 
Uni to uni with a shorter leader. Probably around 3 to 4 feet. I've never had a problem.


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