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wrktoomuch 09-21-2015 07:18 PM

Re: What Will A Week Of NE Do?
 
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Originally Posted by Capt Joe (Post 421403)
Chance of that in the fall? ZERO!

OK, now I know. What month do they come back into those depths? I found them by chance and it was already summer.

Capt Joe 09-21-2015 07:39 PM

Re: What Will A Week Of NE Do?
 
next May.....maybe

Foul Hook 09-21-2015 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jmurr711 (Post 421368)
it will cost me 3 trips for my popecation

Joey, Guess you'll be on Vatican lock-down huh, Philly is going to be a mess!

kmaty 09-21-2015 08:56 PM

Re: What Will A Week Of NE Do?
 
Help me catch even more stripes hahaha put in a week vacation it is

Going going gooonneee fishing see u Monday!!!!!!!!

jmurr711 09-21-2015 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Foul Hook (Post 421421)
Joey, Guess you'll be on Vatican lock-down huh, Philly is going to be a mess!

yea buddy & we are ight in the middle courts closed til next tuesday. prolly gonna get banned from the canal & farrels this weekend

mike1010 09-22-2015 09:24 AM

Re: What Will A Week Of NE Do?
 
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Originally Posted by tautog (Post 421347)
Main body of fluke will be pushed out past 100 feet. Snappers will largely empty out of the rivers.

Not disputing, just trying to understand. The fluke are leaving because the water is too warm. The E wind is bringing cooler water in from offshore. Isn't it possible that the fluke will stay inshore longer with the cooling water? Thanks.

Gerry Zagorski 09-22-2015 10:14 AM

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Fluke are leaving because it's time to leave. Happens every year like clockwork pretty much in spite of winds or water temps.... It's just what they do and part of their internal migration clocks.

East and NE winds usually blow the warmer and clearer waters in from the Gulfstream which runs along our continental shelf a hundred miles or so out. It does however temporarily churn up the water closer into shore and the bays because of rougher surf. Once given a few days to settle down, the water will generally be cleaner and warmer. I think that is way Captain Joe said the ling will probably not stick around... They like colder water.

Sustained and heavy South winds cause upwelling which brings the colder water on the ocean's bottom to the top. This is why sometimes in the middle of the summer the water along our beaches, which are usually warm, get too cold to swim in.

Sharkyispy 09-22-2015 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jmurr711 (Post 421368)
it will cost me 3 trips for my popecation


Getting out of Dodge and Mexico bound!!!! Enough Pope preparations to last a lifetime!!

tautog 09-22-2015 11:19 AM

Re: What Will A Week Of NE Do?
 
Blow like this signals to the main body that it is time to get out of dodge. Without a storm, they trickle off, but with a blow, they leave in mass. There will be some stragglers until November though.

dakota560 09-22-2015 11:19 AM

Re: What Will A Week Of NE Do?
 
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Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski (Post 421465)
Fluke are leaving because it's time to leave. Happens every year like clockwork pretty much in spite of winds or water temps.... It's just what they do and part of their internal migration clocks.

East and NE winds usually blow the warmer and clearer waters in from the Gulfstream which runs along our continental shelf a hundred miles or so out. It does however temporarily churn up the water closer into shore and the bays because of rougher surf. Once given a few days to settle down, the water will generally be cleaner and warmer. I think that is way Captain Joe said the ling will probably not stick around... They like colder water.

Sustained and heavy South winds cause upwelling which brings the colder water on the ocean's bottom to the top. This is why sometimes in the middle of the summer the water along our beaches, which are usually warm, get too cold to swim in.

Serious question regarding the effects of south winds and colder water. Why don't north winds have the same impact on water temps as south winds do. Every day there are 4 tide changes. Half of each day the ocean currents are running south to north in our area (incoming tides) and north to south (outgoing tide) the other half of the day. If a south wind causes upwelling, I assume more so during outgoing tides when wind is against tide, why wouldn't a prevailing north wind cause the same upwelling during incoming tides. That's never seemed to be the case though as a north wind tends to have a positive impact on bottom fishing yet a south wind is the kiss of death. Never understood why a north wind wouldn't create the same conditions a south wind does just inverse of a south wind as far as tides are concerned.

Anyone care to explain.


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