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bulletbob 06-24-2014 09:16 PM

Re: Monday "sea bass"/snakes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by toller (Post 363136)
Didn't realize until this post that the supposed conger eel (somebody told us) my daughter caught 2 years ago was actually a pout. She wanted to try it and it was very good firm white meat, but I over cook one piece and it became chewy. Like monk fish beauty is in the taste buds.

I tried it once and found it very tough and REALLY nasty tasting... fishy and strong... Might have just been a bad one.. Never tried it again.. Even if it tasted like shrimp stuffed lobster in garlic butter I could no longer eat one.. Too ugly and hideous.
When you try and take the hook out of those huge ugly lips, its like trying to to take the hook out of a steel belted radial tire. After a few you are worn out...

The "conger eel" we catch on party boats is indeed an ocean pout..
The fish called the "silver eel' on party boats is a true conger eel.. actual name is American Conger.. pretty confusing...bo

njfisherman1975 06-24-2014 10:42 PM

Re: Monday "sea bass"/snakes
 
Tiger ling are being over harvested so now they are protected...makes as much sense as protecting the endangered dogfish!!!

bulletbob 06-25-2014 09:41 AM

Re: Monday "sea bass"/snakes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by njfisherman1975 (Post 363168)
Tiger ling are being over harvested so now they are protected...makes as much sense as protecting the endangered dogfish!!!

Who the hell "harvests" these things?.. Is there a commercial market for them??.. Why can't the asian/european epicure class develop an insatiable appetite for these things, skates and horn dogs and leave the BFT and live blackfish alone??? I know, I have a bad attitude... lol... bob

Capt Joe 06-25-2014 09:54 AM

Re: Monday "sea bass"/snakes
 
but did you know:
http://www.cookandgarden.com/2012/09...popsicles.html

:D:D:D:D:D

Couple more years we ill be making Special Pout Trips (release only of course):D

I was always particularly fond of the way they wrap their tail around your wrist and "stick" you with their back dorsal :-)

Capt Joe 06-25-2014 10:00 AM

Re: Monday "sea bass"/snakes
 
Really like this shot, kinda gives ya a feel for their "personality":D:D
http://www.gotosnapshot.com/myblog/b...weekocean-pout

;):D

jmurr711 06-25-2014 10:05 AM

Re: Monday "sea bass"/snakes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletbob (Post 363208)
Who the hell "harvests" these things?.. Is there a commercial market for them??.. Why can't the asian/european epicure class develop an insatiable appetite for these things, skates and horn dogs and leave the BFT and live blackfish alone??? I know, I have a bad attitude... lol... bob

I had ehard it had to do with people cponfusing them in northern waters for wolffish. People were keeping wolffish & saying it was pout

Topeka Boy 06-25-2014 11:05 AM

Re: Monday "sea bass"/snakes
 
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Originally Posted by jmurr711 (Post 363214)
I had ehard it had to do with people cponfusing them in northern waters for wolffish. People were keeping wolffish & saying it was pout

I heard the same story, makes more sense than they are endangered .;)

toller 06-25-2014 08:18 PM

Re: Monday "sea bass"/snakes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tautog (Post 363145)
May be tasty but you can't keep them legally for the past 2 1/2 years.

Thanks. he daughter corrected me it was 4 years ago. Tough getting old.

toller 06-25-2014 08:20 PM

Re: Monday "sea bass"/snakes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletbob (Post 363156)
I tried it once and found it very tough and REALLY nasty tasting... fishy and strong... Might have just been a bad one.. Never tried it again.. Even if it tasted like shrimp stuffed lobster in garlic butter I could no longer eat one.. Too ugly and hideous.
When you try and take the hook out of those huge ugly lips, its like trying to to take the hook out of a steel belted radial tire. After a few you are worn out...

The "conger eel" we catch on party boats is indeed an ocean pout..
The fish called the "silver eel' on party boats is a true conger eel.. actual name is American Conger.. pretty confusing...bo

Thanks for the clarification. Glad I'm not he only one getting confused.

shresearchdude 06-26-2014 12:23 PM

Re: Monday "sea bass"/snakes
 
NJ Scuba has some good info and photo's of the species in question and the related identification clues. Many people can confuse the species(a certain person on this site probably has eaten all of them)

http://njscuba.net/biology/sw_fish_bottom.html



I did find some interesting info on a protozoa that was found in Ocean Pout years ago which put a stop to the fishery for some time(yikes!!)-but the parasite does not do well in mammals.....
http://spo.nmfs.noaa.gov/mfr365/mfr3655.pdf

there is always "fishes of the Gulf of Maine" to use as a reference
http://www.gma.org/fogm/Macrozoarces_americanus.htm


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