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bulletbob 11-01-2024 08:09 AM

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. Those shops need traffic.. If not they fail, simple as that.. I agree a shop needs to be open VERY early, especially if they want to sell bait.. One problem is this-Most guys simply don't use bait anymore in FW. With modern high tech lures that are so effective bait just isn't all that neccessary except for maybe Carp or catfish... Shops LOSE money on live shiners, fatheads, Herring or Sawbellies as they are known up here in NY. They just die in the tanks after a while..Owners need to buy and sell them fast as they just start dying quickly. Right now, I can't buy bait anywhere, except worms in gas station.. There might be one or two bait shops within a 50 mile radius. The vast majority stopped because the cost was killing them. They told me. Different scenario in NJ, with the big population but still online sales of tackle and accessories has to be hurting a lot of those small businesses. It cannot be easy to make enough profit in NJ with its crazy overhead selling just bait, even saltwater bait.. bob

NJSquatch 11-01-2024 08:55 AM

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In talking with the local shop owners one issue is just the lack of people fishing. The ones that do frequent the shop are getting up in age and the next generation isn't interested in the sport. I very rarely see kids fishing. Growing up there was a big group of us that would be at the fishing hole everyday during summer break. None of our parents fished.

To make matters worse is that any parent that was into fishing has now lost their free time with all their kids activites and wind up being a taxi service carting them around.

I generally fish artificials but do make a weekly stop for live bait during ice fishing season (if we ever get another one!)

My local shop does have a large selection of lures that you can't find elsewhere and it does draw in customers

Chrisper4694 11-04-2024 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyS (Post 586147)
The saltwater shops seem to be doing surprisingly well.

Probbaly because live and dead bait is accepted by saltwater anglers but for aome reason demonized by freshwater anglers.... i blame the bass fiahing elitists

Chrisper4694 11-04-2024 12:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NJSquatch (Post 586163)
In talking with the local shop owners one issue is just the lack of people fishing. The ones that do frequent the shop are getting up in age and the next generation isn't interested in the sport. I very rarely see kids fishing. Growing up there was a big group of us that would be at the fishing hole everyday during summer break. None of our parents fished.

To make matters worse is that any parent that was into fishing has now lost their free time with all their kids activites and wind up being a taxi service carting them around.

I generally fish artificials but do make a weekly stop for live bait during ice fishing season (if we ever get another one!)

My local shop does have a large selection of lures that you can't find elsewhere and it does draw in customers

Dows has lures you cant even get online sometimes

june181901 11-04-2024 05:24 PM

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Probably fishing reels and rods are the last products being sold at Manufacturers Suggested Retail Prices. This invites on line or out of state shopping to not pay MSR Prices. If the manufacturers stopped cutting off supplies to small retailers who discount from their suggested prices their businesses would surely gain.
I find it amazing that we can bargain for discounted prices on automobiles with sticker prices over 100K but there is a 'set price' on a $300 fishing reel!

Drossi 11-05-2024 04:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletbob (Post 586158)
. Those shops need traffic.. If not they fail, simple as that.. I agree a shop needs to be open VERY early, especially if they want to sell bait.. One problem is this-Most guys simply don't use bait anymore in FW. With modern high tech lures that are so effective bait just isn't all that neccessary except for maybe Carp or catfish... Shops LOSE money on live shiners, fatheads, Herring or Sawbellies as they are known up here in NY. They just die in the tanks after a while..Owners need to buy and sell them fast as they just start dying quickly. Right now, I can't buy bait anywhere, except worms in gas station.. There might be one or two bait shops within a 50 mile radius. The vast majority stopped because the cost was killing them. They told me. Different scenario in NJ, with the big population but still online sales of tackle and accessories has to be hurting a lot of those small businesses. It cannot be easy to make enough profit in NJ with its crazy overhead selling just bait, even saltwater bait.. bob

I think live bait, specifically herring and shiners have probably always been a money loser for a shop. The purposes for selling them were to get fishermen into the shop in the 1st place, cause rarely does one leave a shop with just bait, they often will pick up other items as well.

I'm honestly stunned there's still freshwater fishing shops still around. The overhead has to be murder. Plus most people buy things other than bait online. Declining sales means cutting back hours or you just make the profit (loss) margin worse, that's why the remaining shops are open the limited hours they are open. If the shop isn't right on a body of water like Dow's I don't see how they aren't a money loser.

AndyS 11-05-2024 06:01 PM

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Ideally you would have to be like Dows, sell bait and tackle and rent boats. Or like others, sell kayaks, boats, weigh in deer etc etc.

RWole 11-11-2024 07:43 AM

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Another big factor that has lead to Dows success is their hours of operation are great. Open when other shop owners are still in bed sleeping.

reason162 11-11-2024 10:04 AM

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If every brick/mortar shop closed I don't think I'd notice for years lol.

hammer4reel 11-11-2024 03:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Drossi (Post 586250)
I think live bait, specifically herring and shiners have probably always been a money loser for a shop. The purposes for selling them were to get fishermen into the shop in the 1st place, cause rarely does one leave a shop with just bait, they often will pick up other items as well.

I'm honestly stunned there's still freshwater fishing shops still around. The overhead has to be murder. Plus most people buy things other than bait online. Declining sales means cutting back hours or you just make the profit (loss) margin worse, that's why the remaining shops are open the limited hours they are open. If the shop isn't right on a body of water like Dow's I don't see how they aren't a money loser.

I had friends in the bait business .
Bait is what carried the shops , well above tackle inventory .
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