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Capt. Debbie 07-19-2019 11:42 AM

Re: Boat on the hook
 
No doubt you're right. The older plotters(3 years old or so do not show that green tidal basin. Only the yellow beach. And that face of the hook gets deep fast.

That's why the short lived 11A buoy was put in for that shoal.

The NOAA charts show several hundred more feet of usable water. We've done dozens of night time ungrounding there for this exact reason.


I'll betcha A LOT of money that's why this guy ran aground. Likely at night. Likely at high new moon tide too. And I'll bet you he was in shallow water when it was stuck too.

Moral of the story you can NOT cut the SH 11 can. Especially at night :)




Quote:

Originally Posted by pcheesesteak (Post 534228)
Not to argue, but according to my Navionics map, it shows 150', not 500. See picture.

Again, I don't know the circumstances of this boat's particular grounding.


Capt. Lou 07-19-2019 05:11 PM

Re: Boat on the hook
 
It’s a mute point now , if running at night I would be using my radar for sure !
Set to 1/4 - 1/8 mile and would keep you off the sand especially if your runnin
at or near cruise !

Capt. Debbie 07-23-2019 11:30 AM

Re: Boat on the hook
 
Wrong. Radar would not see it except low tide. The trap is at high tide


It's got water cover over it at high tide. You'd run out of water long before land shows on radar. The SH #11 is a VERY important buoy and ignore most plotter info there.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. Lou (Post 534300)
It’s a mute point now , if running at night I would be using my radar for sure !
Set to 1/4 - 1/8 mile and would keep you off the sand especially if your runnin
at or near cruise !


Capt. Lou 07-23-2019 09:49 PM

Re: Boat on the hook
 
Well u may be correct but to my way of thinking 2 components on your radar system VRM & EBL help out for sure !
One is an electronic beAring line , the other range to target . This may help especially as you pointed out buoy 11 is in a critical location ! These buoys should also appear on radar . This vessel looks to have grounded on a SW course so both of those tip of hook buoys should have appeared on radar as to starboard side of vessel That alone should have been concerning for sure .
Radar would help if know what to look for and be able to interpret same . Running at night requires caution at best , only one thing worse night in the fog!


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