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klark2008
06-04-2017, 03:28 PM
hey guys just recently got a new boat. My friends and I are looking to start getting into tuna and shark fishing. We are obviously new to it so I was just curious on what type of gear you are are using such as tackle hook sizes what pound test on your reels things like that. and what ever else you guys might want to share thanks
CancunPete
06-04-2017, 03:42 PM
klark2008 , stop in at Atlantic Bait and Tackle , we have a large selection of rods and reels for your shark fishing experience. We also have a couple of used Penn International 30"s and 50"s , which are in excellent condition......Stop in , I am sure I can help you out ...Pete
Jigman13
06-04-2017, 03:46 PM
Talk to dave at reel seat. He'll give you the low down on getting started. There's was waaaay too much to advise upon on this forum. And lots depends upon your budget.
Rods, reels, trolling, chunking, jigging, sharking, harpoons, gaffs, safety gear, various lines and leaders, crimps, the list goes on and on!
nmc02
06-04-2017, 04:29 PM
I would look at shimano 30 & 50 tld reels and matching stand up rods. They are reasonably priced and versatile for nj....troll & chunk. Tuna....need 60 & 80 lb flouro leader, quality bait hooks (owner or gamakatsu brand) 7/0 live bait hooks, swivels
Capt. Debbie
06-04-2017, 05:38 PM
Also don't stop at one guy's opinion.
Like everything in boating. It's a compromise... more of one good thing usually brings less of another good thing.
But DO touch, hold and feel the gear to get what's right for you. Dead sticking ( trolling, balloons, near transom short setup, etc) a heavy outfit is OK, unless you are intending to fish holding it. Then every extra ounce of heft you'll rue.
An definitely get a comfortable GIMBAL BELT no matter whose stuff you buy.
Talk to dave at reel seat. He'll give you the low down on getting started. There's was waaaay too much to advise upon on this forum. And lots depends upon your budget.
Rods, reels, trolling, chunking, jigging, sharking, harpoons, gaffs, safety gear, various lines and leaders, crimps, the list goes on and on!
TopShot SF
06-05-2017, 12:37 AM
First thing you need if you plan on fishing offshore is SAFTEY GEAR(epirb, life raft, ditch bag). Then you will need some 30 and 50 reels, I suggest the penn squall 30s, plenty of capacity if you load them up with hollow core braid and mono top shot. The squall is rated as a better reel by Alani Tani the reel guru than the TLDs, they are also cheaper. If you are looking for a High quality reel i would suggest shimano tiagras or shimano talicas.
Capt. Debbie
06-05-2017, 10:33 AM
Pete. you get paperwork from sellers right? Including their DL unless you personally know them.
I had a two speed wide Penn International 30 boosted from my boat. Still have the box. Was attached to a 6 1/2 foot custom black rod. All rollers but non roller tip.
I think they would split the two up.
Does that sound familiar? Probably not. But thought I'd ask.
klark2008 , stop in at Atlantic Bait and Tackle , we have a large selection of rods and reels for your shark fishing experience. We also have a couple of used Penn International 30"s and 50"s , which are in excellent condition......Stop in , I am sure I can help you out ...Pete
Pauls1976
06-05-2017, 07:26 PM
Where are you looking to fish? Mud Hole, middle grounds or canyon? Depending on where you plan on fishing, you might not need to go crazy.
I am a Shimano guy, love my gear. I have 30 and 50tld 2 speeds and. 50W Tiagara 2 speeds.
Regardless of what you choose, do braid or hollow core for base with a top shot of mono in my opinion.
klark2008
06-05-2017, 07:57 PM
well I am still looking into where we want to go. I literally just got my a bigger boat on saturday. definitely going to do a few trips to learn the boat before I head out to far. I just got a mckee craft freedom 22 ft with a 200hp yamaha, 120 gallon tank. not much for electronics just yet.
Jigman13
06-05-2017, 08:55 PM
With a 22' I wouldn't lose sight of land unless it's blue bird conditions and flat calm... but that's just me. I'd also invest in a kicker in case the 200 craps the bed while out.
Raft, epirb, etc as mentioned. Buddy up with another vessel if you decide to actually venture off. Also, think about investing in a charter to learn the ropes. The cost is worth it 5 fold in regards to tutorial.
Capt Sal
06-06-2017, 09:50 AM
With a 22' I wouldn't lose sight of land unless it's blue bird conditions and flat calm... but that's just me. I'd also invest in a kicker in case the 200 craps the bed while out.
Raft, epirb, etc as mentioned. Buddy up with another vessel if you decide to actually venture off. Also, think about investing in a charter to learn the ropes. The cost is worth it 5 fold in regards to tutorial.
Electronics? Big difference between going to the mud hole or the Chicken Canyon!Radar,epirb,raft, and most of all experience! No disrespect but i don't think your ready for off shore and a 22' boat is the bare minimum.
bowhunter
06-06-2017, 10:10 AM
I have 2 50-80 stand up rods with penn 6/0 and 50lb ande on them.Would let the pair go for 200.00
dfish28
06-06-2017, 10:43 AM
With 22... mudhole, maybe chicken on the best day, but I wouldn't recommend, first thing is figure out your exact gpm... and divide that by your usable fuel and leave 1/3 for unexpected conditions so basically see how far you can get on 40 gallons, then return and hopefully still have 40 left for reserve in case... a 22' boat is not for the canyon in my opinion, but there is still a lot of fun inside if you look in the right spots at the right time, I would look into threshers at this point, as others said - SAFETY FIRST, gear wise, 50's with 120# braid backing to a top shot of your liking, I would personally do 200 lb braid to top shot but that's me... best of luck!
Capt Sal
06-06-2017, 02:42 PM
Ok here is what an old grumpy salt has to say.First of all you don't need to spend a fortune.Used big game reels are a dime a dozen and your not going after giant bft.A 22' boat is good for the slough, little Italy the Princess wreck etc. That is as far off as i would go.Here is the 69 question ,how much exp. does the capt. have and does the crew have any exp.at all?? When things go wrong panic sets in and inexperienced people panic worst Because this is a step up in boat size it does not mean off shore.I am happy for you getting a bigger boat but dicretion is the better part of valor.This is my opinion and mine alone and i wish you the best but NO FISH is worth risking your life for.
klark2008
06-06-2017, 09:24 PM
Yea my experience is somewhat low for fishing offshore.I went tuna fishing in the canyon like 12 years ago with my uncle on his friends boat. I got one small tuna. and they caught a decent shark. But I was the kid on the boat so they were not really teaching me much. Mostly when we fish we are not much farther than just out of site of land. Until now our boats were small, except my old 28 ft bay liner. I didn't take that rust bucket out far though. I have had boats for a while. my last boat was a 17ft proline CC. We would take it out of sight of land also. Never really had any issues except bad weather few minor mechanical things I fixed on water. We are not planning on going right out for tuna at the canyon. I still have to learn my boat. learn the gas consumption. get a kicker motor and lots of other stuff. This post is really just to see what other guys are doing so I can get advice for whats to come. I got this boat so we can fish outside a little farther and more comfortably. My guys experience for the most part is equal to mine with my one buddy more of a mechanic than I am. The 3 of us have all been through some really bad situations. We can handle stress and bad situations pretty well. Im not to to worried about either of us panicking. (although I have never been on a sinking boat in the middle of the Atlantic ocean with chum slicks and hungry sharks) we are all chipping in for good safety gear. I still have to save up to update my electronics. We played with the idea of booking a tuna charter but with having to buy all this other needed stuff we cant afford to. I also thought about trying to find a willing person on here that would be willing to take us out on there boat or come on mine to teach us,but I really dont want to burn all that fuel to find out this person is a nit wit who just wanted to get away from his wife for the day. We really are taking it serious. I hope you guys are not thinking oh hear is another jackass cruising around look out. It has always been something we wanted to do so we have to buckle down and do it right. Thanks for all this input we really appreciate it a lot. please keep it coming.
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