copolymer

[tycomps]

Had an extra 3000 spinning reel that needed line so I figured I'd try out copolymer. Strung it up with 10lb and liked it so much I replaced fluoro on one of my smaller reels with 6lb copolymer. Casts further, lies flat, tough, and is almost invisible in the water so I'm going to test out the 4lb on a UL next. Looking for others opinions, thanks.

update 6/3- pulled it off my 4 and 6 lb reels today, too many line twists!

update 6/21- as per 6/3 update switched to mono, definitely miss the non-stretch property of the copolymer. may try the copolymer again on a spare reel and treat it with pure silicone to see if the twists are more manageable.

[mike1010]

My experience is different. The stuff is small diameter and soft, which has its advantages, but it nicks easily, and a nick in that small diameter creates a significant weak spot.

[BELLYUP]

Watch your knots copolymers dont like heat it weakens them. Make sure you wet them when you tighten them down.

[tycomps]

Watch your knots copolymers dont like heat it weakens them. Make sure you wet them when you tighten them down.

noticed that, forgot to lick one and it resulted in a 2 inch pig tail from the lure up (palomar).

[NJSquatch]

what brand of copolymer did you use?

I have had great success with 8# Izorline XXX.

http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Izorline_XXX_Super_Co-Polymer_Smoke/descpage-IXXXSC.html

I treat all my line with KVD line conditioner as well.

[tycomps]

tried kast king and p line with the same results so I stopped using it, have heard the KVD and pure 'food industry' approved silcone work, might try again at some point with the line treatment.

[Riz]

I like that izorline. a buddy of mine was a rep for them and we did a show in rockland one year. we had the line on the knot tester machine and it holds up extremely well. the line is real nice. has a fair amount of stretch too. I know the trout guys love the smaller diameters as some local shops sell it out quickly. I have used the 6 for drop shot, 8 for light cranking on my crankbait rod and have used 14 as a leader to braid. im pretty much a bass guy . wet your knots always too. if ya wanna try it out I got some bulk spools ill fill a reel for ya if your in the area.

[tycomps]

I like that izorline. a buddy of mine was a rep for them and we did a show in rockland one year. we had the line on the knot tester machine and it holds up extremely well. the line is real nice. has a fair amount of stretch too. I know the trout guys love the smaller diameters as some local shops sell it out quickly. I have used the 6 for drop shot, 8 for light cranking on my crankbait rod and have used 14 as a leader to braid. im pretty much a bass guy . wet your knots always too. if ya wanna try it out I got some bulk spools ill fill a reel for ya if your in the area.

just checked my line stock again, looks like I tried 6lb clear yo-zuri hybrid too.

I'm in North Plainfield and don't go north much but thanks for the offer, think I'll try izorline with kvd next. let you know.

[Riz]

no worries, I do enjoy it and the offer always stands. so long as I still have it. :) if they do an outing in the fall or some get together ill bring it. we will see . im sure you will like it

[tycomps]

ordered 8# izorline, gonna use a can of real magic I have on it (know it's not pure), will update results. thanks!

also going to use 4# p line on another reel with real magic this time to see if it helps.......more to come.

update 8/22- I strung both new reels as per above taking great care to minimize line irregularities. sprayed a lint free cloth with the reel magic and ran line thru it while stringing. got out this morning for an hour to test the lines. both laid flat and cast long although I still get the tip loop more than I'd like. didn't see any oil from the RM as I've read. overall as happy as I was the last time I tried copolymer, hope it holds up.

[tycomps]

update on conditioned Izorline 27035 Platinum Co-Polymer Mono Line, 8 lb, clear on KastKing Mela Spinning Reel mounted on Daiwa EXE701MLXS Medium Light Action Exceler Spinning Rod (1-Piece), 7-Feet.

Used four times, line lays flat and still throws good distances but today it developed a complicated wind knot (pulled out but left area wavy) also starting to notice twisted sections, ideas?

[Riz]

ya those wind knots could be a pain. usually caused from slack line being wound on top of it. honestly I close my bail by hand a lot of times and , especially in a stiff wind, once the bail is closed ill grab the line above the reel and pull it tight . also line conditioner may help. reel magic or kvd brands are two I have used but im sure there are others.

if its wavy after it pulls out the line has been weakend so clip and re tie

[NJSquatch]

What type of lure u throwing? I have noticed that I get twists with lures that you wouldn't normally think. Tubes Ned rigs and drop shots come to mind.

Try stretching out the line. Much easier in a boat. Let out just the line at idle speed for a couple hundred feet close the bail and "troll" with it for a distance then reel it in while still moving. Usually gets them out.

[tycomps]

ya those wind knots could be a pain. usually caused from slack line being wound on top of it. honestly I close my bail by hand a lot of times and , especially in a stiff wind, once the bail is closed ill grab the line above the reel and pull it tight . also line conditioner may help. reel magic or kvd brands are two I have used but im sure there are others.

if its wavy after it pulls out the line has been weakend so clip and re tie

line is conditioned and I do close bail manually. I assumed knot occurred away from rod but now that I think of it I think I noticed it going thru guides casting not retrieving so it may have happened when a gust blew back at me. I'll try pinching the line above the reel on slack casts but I wonder why it's twisting further down too. I've found I can't troll copolymer without a ball bearing swivel, line twists/knots/and tip loops were why I stopped using copolymer before.

[tycomps]

What type of lure u throwing? I have noticed that I get twists with lures that you wouldn't normally think. Tubes Ned rigs and drop shots come to mind.

Try stretching out the line. Much easier in a boat. Let out just the line at idle speed for a couple hundred feet close the bail and "troll" with it for a distance then reel it in while still moving. Usually gets them out.

It was a jerkbait but that's interesting, I usually hit a field with new line, let it all out (with a rock weighing down the end until I pull the empty line free when it's all out) and reel it back in squeezing with a rag (soaked with conditioner for copolymer) to get it as straight as possible when I can't do the boat thing but I didn't do that this time. I'll try that too but I don't get this stuff with mono or fluoro. It's a shame cuz I like the way the copolymer throws, it's sensitivity, and invisibility. It doesn't really nick on me fishing structure like others have mentioned either.

[tycomps]

My experience is different. The stuff is small diameter and soft, which has its advantages, but it nicks easily, and a nick in that small diameter creates a significant weak spot.

that's why I pulled it off my 4 and 6# rods and went with the conditioned 8# izor for the test.