Flashback 2015

[Billfish715]

Remember this? February 2015! We thought it would never end!

[bulletbob]

Yeah, we didn't have global warming back then... Good thing its back!

[sbalewitz74]

Obarry is out, global warming is over.

[Duffman]

Yeah man!! Remember when those pics went up originally here.

HATE mild winters like we have had this year. No $

[Pennsy Guy]

Billfish---looks like a highjack...
First: it's early February-wait!
Second: For Bulletbob-- Real question--Who's flown into LA International lately? Navy sent me there in 1959 and you couldn't see the city for the smog. Still the same? Everyone was pissing & moaning about global warming then---isn't air pollution much less now?

[bulletbob]

Billfish---looks like a highjack...
First: it's early February-wait!
Second: For Bulletbob-- Real question--Who's flown into LA International lately? Navy sent me there in 1959 and you couldn't see the city for the smog. Still the same? Everyone was pissing & moaning about global warming then---isn't air pollution much less now?


Here's a good quick quick read concerning LA smog from the 40's until now... the air there is not perfect, but its vastly better than it was 50 years ago...


http://www.marketplace.org/2014/07/14/sustainability/we-used-be-china/la-smog-battle-against-air-pollution

[Blind Squirrel]

Yeah, we didn't have global warming back then... Good thing its back!
Global climate change never left:
http://www.climatecentral.org/gallery/graphics/the-10-hottest-years-on-record
Weather in one location isn't global, nor is it climate.

[SaltLife1980]

I took a ride down to keyport and highlands to get a first hand look at that and man was it cool. This year compered to 2015 is totally opposite.

[Billfish715]

When NOAA figures out how to control the weather, then I might believe that they know how to control the growth of the fluke populations. They can't control the weather, no less predict it accurately; and, they sure haven't done such a great job over the last 30 years trying to regulate the fluke fishing. They need to face it. They have been regulating fluke fishing for a long, long time and each few years, they say that the fluke population is dwindling. They were in charge! They called the shots! Hey NOAA! First, figure out the wind direction and velocity correctly the next time I take my boat out; then come talk to me about the fluke regulations.

As for the winter of 2015........that was then, this is now. That was the winter that would never end.....or so it seemed. Look at it now. Go figure. Don't try to out think Mother Nature!

[Blind Squirrel]

When NOAA figures out how to control the weather, then I might believe that they know how to control the growth of the fluke populations. They can't control the weather, no less predict it accurately; and, they sure haven't done such a great job over the last 30 years trying to regulate the fluke fishing. They need to face it. They have been regulating fluke fishing for a long, long time and each few years, they say that the fluke population is dwindling. They were in charge! They called the shots! Hey NOAA! First, figure out the wind direction and velocity correctly the next time I take my boat out; then come talk to me about the fluke regulations.

As for the winter of 2015........that was then, this is now. That was the winter that would never end.....or so it seemed. Look at it now. Go figure. Don't try to out think Mother Nature!
NOAA's job is to forecast the weather for a specified length of time in the near future, not to control it or "out think Mother Nature," and their role in fisheries regulation is an entirely separate issue. The next time you take your boat out, you have the choice of listening to weather predictions from professional meteorologists at NOAA and other agencies or just relying on your own instincts. The former seems like a more sensible option.

[bulletbob]

NOAA's job is to forecast the weather for a specified length of time in the near future, not to control it or "out think Mother Nature," and their role in fisheries regulation is an entirely separate issue. The next time you take your boat out, you have the choice of listening to weather predictions from professional meteorologists at NOAA and other agencies or just relying on your own instincts. The former seems like a more sensible option.

defend them all you want.. they suck.. always always wrong and its never even close, at least when it comes to marine forecasts,, just like most other government entities,, they stink at what they do, yet are autonomous, never having to answer to anyone for their ineptitude.. bob

[Blind Squirrel]

defend them all you want.. they suck.. always always wrong and its never even close, at least when it comes to marine forecasts,, just like most other government entities,, they stink at what they do, yet are autonomous, never having to answer to anyone for their ineptitude.. bob
So don't get your marine weather forecasts from any government entities. If you know more about meteorology than the NOAA experts, you should probably just start your own weather service. You could become our very first "alternative facts" weather dude. :rolleyes:

[bulletbob]

So don't get your marine weather forecasts from any government entities. If you know more about meteorology than the NOAA experts, you should probably just start your own weather service. You could become our very first "alternative facts" weather dude. :rolleyes:

They are pretty much useless.. Ask some of the party/charter captains how much money your inept NOAA forecast wunderkind cost them each year..
They sail with 6 guys on a flat calm sunny day when your bureaucratically funded "weather wizards" forecast a damn gale with driving rain, or call for 10 knot west winds, sunny, and it blows hard NE at 30 knots in blinding snow squalls.. happens constantly and consistently, and I stand by my opinion..
they suck..
btw, I know nothing of modern weather science , outside of old time maritime visual observations, but also don't pretend to know how to scientifically forecast the weather, , so your snotty remark carries no weight.. Depend on and trust your life to NOAA forecasts if you like.. A lot of very knowledgeable people here do NOT.... bob

[Blind Squirrel]

They are pretty much useless.. Ask some of the party/charter captains how much money your inept NOAA forecast wunderkind cost them each year..
They sail with 6 guys on a flat calm sunny day when your bureaucratically funded "weather wizards" forecast a damn gale with driving rain, or call for 10 knot west winds, sunny, and it blows hard NE at 30 knots in blinding snow squalls.. happens constantly and consistently, and I stand by my opinion..
they suck..
btw, I know nothing of modern weather science , outside of old time maritime visual observations, but also don't pretend to know how to scientifically forecast the weather, , so your snotty remark carries no weight.. Depend on and trust your life to NOAA forecasts if you like.. A lot of very knowledgeable people here do NOT.... bob
I know of no party/charter captain who doesn't rely on NWS forecasts, and since you obviously don't trust them, you surely have more reliable sources. Given the gravity of the situation you describe, your modesty is quite puzzling... :confused:

[Gerry Zagorski]

Closing this thread, it's getting too personal.