Tuna braid to mono knot

[togzilla]

I have a couple of trips coming up I'm glad they are not until October given the dismal tuna reports. Anyway, after many many years of tuna chunk fishing I'm finally getting tired of working an Intl. 50 all night and want to step down now that some of the smaller reels manufacturers have improved their drag systems. I have several chunking and jigging reels and want to start using my Avet HWX for chunking as I was primarily using it for jigging before. I have 80lb color braid on it and want to put a 100 yard topshot of 80lb. mono. Here's my problem: I have tried tying Alberto's, double unis, yucatan, slim beauty, and sebile knots but they have all pulled out when I draw them tight and put pressure on them. I've watched numerous YouTube videos and tried all of those knots numerous times. I'm using 80lb mono and was wondering if that is just too heavy. What knots are you guys using for 80lb braid to mono?

[howarda780]

Check out the FG KNOT.

[Walleyed]

Bimini twist to Yucatán, I've never seen one pull if tied correctly.

I used FG knot on smaller (40 lb or less) mono.

[Capt. Lou]

Bimini the braid & use a wind on that will end ur knot problem ! 80 X 80 I can knot easily using 25 turn Bimini & reverse Albright add some knot sense to fill in gaps .
However my first choice is HC braid splice in fluoro & ur done , no knots snell on hook or crimp . I prefer loop knot on hook ,double thru nail knot or double uni , loop or u can use CB tuna hooks with ring then u can use Palomar or nail it ring .I prefer the hook to,remain free some like it fixed choice is yours not too much difference on hookups just my preference
Ur knots are failing due to u not cinching properly & ur braid if solid should always bemini looped then knot will hold no issues

[loosescrews]

80# mono is not too heavy. You'll appreciate it when it rubs the side of the boat. Plus you can always switch out your leaders via a ball bearing snap swivel. I carry anywhere between 30- 100# flouro. As for your braid to top shot connection I use a PR knot. You'll need a bobbin to do this but it's the next best thing to splicing mono inside hollow core. It's as close to 100% as you're going to get.

[togzilla]

Check out the FG KNOT

Sebile knot is the same thing

[Walleyed]

This may sound like a silly idea, but I'm going to suggest you go to your local tackle shop where you do business and ask them if they can give you some help. Sounds like you're not getting things cinched down correctly and spending a few minutes with someone who can spot your mistakes will get you fixed up in short order.

[nmc02]

Best is to go loop to loop. You will need to get hollow core braid and have a loop installed...it's inexpensive. The other alternative is an improved albright or fg knot. If you are near north jersey, I can tie for you.

[Meat Hunter]

I"m not a tuna guy yet, but working on it. I can tell you this, I've been down the same road on Youtube and not a lot of those Albright knots work. Period.

What works for me is this, I do an improved Albright, with loose coils, so when I wrap the line back it weaves into the loose coils. The key is not to pull the knot tight before you cinch it up. In other words, tighten the coils up, then put the pressure on the ends. You have to see how many reverse coils back to the loop will work for your line diameter. For thin Fireline, I use the same amount.

Try that pulling the wraps of braid before the whole shooting match. It works for me.


Meat Hunter

[bunker dunker]

leave the thread at home,i do.50lb mono on the jigging rod and 80lb on the bait rod{that I never use}.the more thread the more dread while tuna fishing.

[Capt. Lou]

I"m not a tuna guy yet, but working on it. I can tell you this, I've been down the same road on Youtube and not a lot of those Albright knots work. Period.

What works for me is this, I do an improved Albright, with loose coils, so when I wrap the line back it weaves into the loose coils. The key is not to pull the knot tight before you cinch it up. In other words, tighten the coils up, then put the pressure on the ends. You have to see how many reverse coils back to the loop will work for your line diameter. For thin Fireline, I use the same amount.

Try that pulling the wraps of braid before the whole shooting match. It works for me.


Meat Hunter

Reverse Albright works just fine I've taken 100's of tuna & other species using this connection , it takes all of 15 seconds to complete !! However if this angler doesn't understand knots then he should get some advice from someone who does like was suggested .

[Gerry Zagorski]

I"m not a tuna guy yet, but working on it. I can tell you this, I've been down the same road on Youtube and not a lot of those Albright knots work. Period.

What works for me is this, I do an improved Albright, with loose coils, so when I wrap the line back it weaves into the loose coils. The key is not to pull the knot tight before you cinch it up. In other words, tighten the coils up, then put the pressure on the ends. You have to see how many reverse coils back to the loop will work for your line diameter. For thin Fireline, I use the same amount.

Try that pulling the wraps of braid before the whole shooting match. It works for me.


Meat Hunter

Not sure I understand..... So you cinch the braid coils first then the mono and the braid together?

[tunanut]

Reverse Albright works just fine I've taken 100's of tuna & other species using this connection , it takes all of 15 seconds to complete !! However if this angler doesn't understand knots then he should get some advice from someone who does like was suggested .

^^this. the reverse albright works just fine. i've found over the years, the fancier knots or the "knots of the moment" are usually more complicated than needed to do the job, and may not hold as well as the tried and true... you can also finish the reverse albright with a lock knot if you want.

[togzilla]

Thanks for all of the replies

[MrAC1980]

FG or PR knot! but you gotta get the bobbin in order to do it right. Capt Lou's suggestion is a good one too.

[Nancy's Boys]

Albright is the best, Brian at fisherman supply taught me years ago, 80lb braid to 80 mono. Fought 3 bigeyes last year in a row 150 to 191lb. Knot holds up perfect.

[MVP]

Capt Lou knows his stuff. He has caught more big tuna then most of us will see in our lifetime. He is old and wise for a reason as he has not just surfed the internet to find and answer he has lived it. Back then they did not even have the internet they wrote things down on stone tablets.:p

I have been using the FG knot as mentioned for the past 2 years. More complicated but it is the thinnest connection i have found with no tag ends to get caught in guides or cut your fingers when line coming off your reel.

Once you get the hang off it it only takes a few minutes. If tied right it is bullet proof as the tighter it gets the stronger it gets as it will not slip. ( Chinese finger trap theory). Just like any knot if not tied correctly say good buy to any decent sized fish that will always find the weakest point of your tackle mostly due to angler error.

[hammer4reel]

PR Bobbin Knot.
once you get used to tying them, only takes a minute.
and it puts ALL the other knots listed to shame.

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[Pennsy Guy]

Check out the FG KNOT

Sebile knot is the same thing

^^^^^X2 just tie it perfectly and DO EVERY STEP--especially cinching down the braid--I use this for all my braid backing to top shots...then I use 1 drop of crazy glue on it....

[aruvio]

Varivas knot, I'm probably one of the few ppl I know who uses it but I will tell you it is just as strong as the other knots mentioned and far less work. I use it for inshore and offshore and I find it impossible to break free when i'm stuck in the bottom. Unless I'm using less than 40lb test it is a b!tch to break free. its not as seemless as the other knots but pinch the mono tag end with pliers or burn and it goes through the guides no problem.