Gas Buoy - Shrewsbury Rocks

[FVPelican]

I've fished the Rocks a number of times in the last month. The gas buoy has gone missing. Anyone know what happened to it?

[NoLimit]

somebody asked before - no one knew

[penn50w]

seems like the Gov't does not want to maintain them any longer - bouy's have been removed - HA, BA, NA etc

[dakota560]

Like everything the government touches, they'll wait until there's an emergency before responding. A barge or tanker filled with gas or some toxic chemical will run aground at the Shrewsbury Rocks and cause the worse environmental spill this area has ever seen before putting the buoy back. I always understood this buoy to mark the rocks as a guide for tanker and tugboat / barge traffic taking the most inshore southerly route along the coastline heading in or out of Sandy Hook or the Hudson. Makes no sense to me those buoys were removed but hey let's just wait for the next Valdez and we can put them back then.

[penn50w]

They "assume" everyone has GPS and knows how to use it :rolleyes:

[NoLimit]

Any vessel drafting that much is going to have a GPS plotter. It might not be a problem at all.

[Capt. Debbie]

Last I checked the 20 restricted area buoys around NWS Earle were kept home this year too.


seems like the Gov't does not want to maintain them any longer - bouy's have been removed - HA, BA, NA etc

[Capt. Debbie]

The HA and BA Sea Lanes and approaches are well offshore of Shrewsbury Rocks.

The inshore and off shore Shrewsbury Rocks buoys had nothing to do with the sea lanes.




Like everything the government touches, they'll wait until there's an emergency before responding. A barge or tanker filled with gas or some toxic chemical will run aground at the Shrewsbury Rocks and cause the worse environmental spill this area has ever seen before putting the buoy back. I always understood this buoy to mark the rocks as a guide for tanker and tugboat / barge traffic taking the most inshore southerly route along the coastline heading in or out of Sandy Hook or the Hudson. Makes no sense to me those buoys were removed but hey let's just wait for the next Valdez and we can put them back then.

[untide]

seen this on the LNM:

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/lnms/lnm01272016.pdf

PERMANENTLY DISESTABLISH Shrewsbury Rocks Lighted Buoy 1 (LLNR 760) from (PA) 40-20-27.896N/ 073-55-34.489W.

Interested Mariners are strongly encouraged to comment on this proposal in writing, either personally or through their organization. All
comments will be carefully considered and are requested prior to 15 July 2016 to complete the process. In order to most effectively consider
your feedback and improve the data collection, when responding to this proposal, please include size and type of vessel, recreational or
commercial, and distance from aid that you start looking for it, and if and how you use the signal. Please do not call the Coast Guard via
telephone or other means, only written responses to this proposal will be accepted. Refer to Project No. 01-16-111. E-mail can be sent to:
D01-SMB-DPWPublicComments@uscg.mil .

[dakota560]

The HA and BA Sea Lanes and approaches are well offshore of Shrewsbury Rocks.

The inshore and off shore Shrewsbury Rocks buoys had nothing to do with the sea lanes.

I'm not challenging your post so don't take it that way. I've seen many tankers and tugs pulling large barges pass through the rattlesnake just east of where the outside can was marking the eastern end of the Shrewsbury Rocks. So it might not be the HA or BA lanes but it is a lane of some sort used commonly for southerly traffic. Whether that buoy was an official marker or not for shipping lanes I'm not sure, I always assumed that buoy was there to mark the rocks and potential navigating hazard to larger vessels. If not, what was the purpose of that buoy. I'm sure as others have mentioned all large vessels have GPS plotters as did Joseph Hazelwood on the Valdez on that fateful day in 1989 but I would think if a buoy, especially a well lit buoy at night, could act as an added insurance policy that a boat doesn't run aground and create another environmental disaster it would make sense leaving it there. If it was an important marker for all these years, why isn't it now?

[hammer4reel]

I'm not challenging your post so don't take it that way. I've seen many tankers and tugs pulling large barges pass through the rattlesnake just east of where the outside can was marking the eastern end of the Shrewsbury Rocks. So it might not be the HA or BA lanes but it is a lane of some sort used commonly for southerly traffic. Whether that buoy was an official marker or not for shipping lanes I'm not sure, I always assumed that buoy was there to mark the rocks and potential navigating hazard to larger vessels. If not, what was the purpose of that buoy. I'm sure as others have mentioned all large vessels have GPS plotters as did Joseph Hazelwood on the Valdez on that fateful day in 1989 but I would think if a buoy, especially a well lit buoy at night, could act as an added insurance policy that a boat doesn't run aground and create another environmental disaster it would make sense leaving it there. If it was an important marker for all these years, why isn't it now?

Have seen the same thing HUNDREDS of times. its def a barge travel area frequently used.

electronics can misfunction at any time, and many times when a LP barge goes past they block out your gps.

[dakota560]

Dan absolutely agree, I've seen countless barges as well as tankers taking that route south out of Sandy Hook or the Hudson, AND if they're passing the snake they're not that far from the beginning of the Shrewsbury Rocks and the buoy we're talking about. Don't see nearly as many motoring north towards SH but have seen a few taking that course as well. If there were God forbid a spill there it would be an absolute disaster to the marine environment in that area and with the tides most likely Sandy Hook Bay, arguably some of the most popular fishing areas on the coast. Sandy Hook National Park could effectively be closed down. Don't understand why the powers to be would remove a buoy I'm assuming was intended to mark a navigational hazard coming out of one of the busiest ports in the world. That rock formation reaches almost three miles offshore and should be marked. Like I said, it'll go back up after a disaster strikes so some bureaucrat can cover their ass!

Just curious in your post, what does LP stand for? Liquid Propane by any chance? Have my reasons for asking but wanted to see your reply first.