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PaBeerGuy
02-17-2016, 03:15 PM
Heading down to OC, Md for a last tog trip. My buddy has a house in Bethany so it makes it easier that way. We spend Thursday nite there then run to the boat Friday AM for a 5:30 departure. Just curious if any of you boys on this site have fished with Capt Monty and what I can expect?:eek::D
ytuna
02-17-2016, 03:41 PM
You can expect a great effort on Monty's part to put you on fish. The boat is slow but he knows where to go. Monty is expert at anchoring. He will put you on good bottom. He will leave on time (he will not wait for folks that are late).
The pool will be based on length so that you can release fish. You will be encouraged to release large females.
No short fish and no live fish will be on the boat when you get back to the dock. He takes that stuff very seriously.
You have a shot at a Bertha, enjoy the trip.
jlrotary
02-17-2016, 03:49 PM
Great Capt and crew. Slow long ride, but usually worth it. Not much seating room inside, bring a bean bag if you got one. He supplies lead 😉 dunce your guy is slow 😜.
"3rd fin rip"
If you catch a short take the hook and rip the dorsal fin near 3rd spine. This does not grow back and if caught again Monty will tag the fish. So check for rips if already ripped tell Monty and he will tag it, if not rip it and send him or her back.
Good luck wish I could go
M Rod
02-17-2016, 04:50 PM
He is going to take a ride on Friday. Bring something comfortable to sit on for the ride. Also be early. Its the kinda trip you want to shove off early and he will if everyone is there. Good luck. If it was a Saturday trip I would be on it. Been itching to fish with him but the weather hasn't cooperated much lately.
Reelron
02-17-2016, 07:43 PM
I'll see you on the boat.
dakota560
02-17-2016, 08:32 PM
Heading down to OC, Md for a last tog trip. My buddy has a house in Bethany so it makes it easier that way. We spend Thursday nite there then run to the boat Friday AM for a 5:30 departure. Just curious if any of you boys on this site have fished with Capt Monty and what I can expect?:eek::D
Is this an open boat trip or reservations required? Thanks for your reply!
It is by reservation only. He limits his trip and once he post open date they normally fill up in a few hours. Monty is one of the best Blackfish Capts on the east coast period. Expect a very long run on Friday as he is swinging for the fences. You may catch an 18 pounder and still loose the pool when fishing on his boat. You may also fish all day and get 2-3 bites all day. It is trophy hunting blackfishing at its finest.
Best of luck to all who are on trip
PaBeerGuy
02-18-2016, 01:27 AM
Is this an open boat trip or reservations required? Thanks for your reply!
I got on the trip as of 9:00 this am, he had 2 more spots left after me.
SaltLife1980
02-18-2016, 01:57 AM
Good luck! Hope you get a Slob!
PaBeerGuy
02-18-2016, 10:37 AM
I'll see you on the boat.
I'll bring a few extra of some of Pa's finest to share if you like.;)
dakota560
02-18-2016, 12:18 PM
I got on the trip as of 9:00 this am, he had 2 more spots left after me.
Thanks for your reply. Won't be able to make this trip but definitely interested in a trip like this down the road. Best of luck to the guys getting out, look forward to seeing the reports.
dakota560
02-18-2016, 12:24 PM
Great Capt and crew. Slow long ride, but usually worth it. Not much seating room inside, bring a bean bag if you got one. He supplies lead 😉 dunce your guy is slow 😜.
"3rd fin rip"
If you catch a short take the hook and rip the dorsal fin near 3rd spine. This does not grow back and if caught again Monty will tag the fish. So check for rips if already ripped tell Monty and he will tag it, if not rip it and send him or her back.
Good luck wish I could go
Don't understand the 3rd fin rip, a little slow on the uptick I guess! What exactly is the point of ripping the dorsal fin before tagging it if caught again? Why not tag shorts the first time caught without surgery? Not questioning the practice, curious what the Captain is trying to accomplish. Does it have anything to do with tracking resident fish maybe?
dakota560
02-18-2016, 12:59 PM
Just watched a 2010 video made by Capt. Monty. May have answered my own questions in the process. Assume the ripping procedure is to validate number of previously caught fish which survive being released. I'm assuming it's a technique to prove or disprove theories about the effect releasing fish has at various depths on mortality rates. Initially I was wondering why not just tag the fish when caught the first time. My guess is ripping the fish's dorsal fin first before tagging ensures it's not double counted each time recovered. That would be my guess. Kudos to the Captain for his efforts, seems like a real class act and operation and someone who actually tries doing something for the health of the fishery as opposed to simply talking about it.
TheFishSlayer
02-18-2016, 09:30 PM
Just watched a 2010 video made by Capt. Monty. May have answered my own questions in the process. Assume the ripping procedure is to validate number of previously caught fish which survive being released. I'm assuming it's a technique to prove or disprove theories about the effect releasing fish has at various depths on mortality rates. Initially I was wondering why not just tag the fish when caught the first time. My guess is ripping the fish's dorsal fin first before tagging ensures it's not double counted each time recovered. That would be my guess. Kudos to the Captain for his efforts, seems like a real class act and operation and someone who actually tries doing something for the health of the fishery as opposed to simply talking about it.
Can u post the link?
tombanjo
02-18-2016, 09:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x69aTawtWuY
Fin Reaper
02-18-2016, 10:45 PM
The wife and I are in OCMD as I'm typing this....ocean has been looking a tad sporty. Hope you guys have a good trip and be safe
Just watched a 2010 video made by Capt. Monty. May have answered my own questions in the process. Assume the ripping procedure is to validate number of previously caught fish which survive being released. I'm assuming it's a technique to prove or disprove theories about the effect releasing fish has at various depths on mortality rates. Initially I was wondering why not just tag the fish when caught the first time. My guess is ripping the fish's dorsal fin first before tagging ensures it's not double counted each time recovered. That would be my guess. Kudos to the Captain for his efforts, seems like a real class act and operation and someone who actually tries doing something for the health of the fishery as opposed to simply talking about it.
Capt Monty is a huge advocate for conserveration and having accurate data the marine fisheries can use in determining quotas rather than the flawed system they currently use. if you ever read one of his post he has a PhD in the importance of creating marine habitat. He spends much of his own money and time to create sustain habitat to make sure that generations to come have fish to catch. To answer your question. He has been tagging fish for many many years. These tags are not cheap either. He has probably tagged thousands of fish. This get very expensive. These tags are not cheap either. The ripped fin serves the same purpose of tagging fish without the cost involved.
Scrubby
02-19-2016, 02:29 PM
Good luck to you guys.. I hear great things about Captain Monty..I know he does only open boat by reservation.. My question is I want to get on a trip with him next year tog season.. How long in advance will he take a reservation? I have 2 little ones at home and my wife and I works schedules are all over the place. So I need to plan in advance..
He does not plan trips ahead of time. What he does is look at the weather a couple of days in advance and post open trips based on the weather window
Scrubby
02-19-2016, 02:46 PM
He does not plan trips ahead of time. What he does is look at the weather a couple of days in advance and post open trips based on the weather window
Man, That's going to be tough for me.. I guess Im going to have to be flexible or try to be..
ParkerBoys
02-21-2016, 11:38 AM
How was the trip?
Reelron
02-21-2016, 01:52 PM
Sad to say the trip was not good at all, Guess I should have check ed the moon as well as the weather? Current was ripping, Started with 12oz. and actually had to go up to 18-20 oz. Caught a few short Rare SeaBass & that kind of shows the water was still warm enough but the Toggies just weren't up to fighting that current for a meal. Total boat skunk, not that Capt. Monty didn't give it his best effort.
Can't catch 'em here on the internet, so I'm still glad I made the effort & will head back down when I get a better chance.
On the up-side, I did manage to sell a few Tog Hoodies & T-shirts!
PaBeerGuy
02-21-2016, 03:34 PM
I was there, never did spot you Reelron. I was the guy in the funny hat. Long slow boat ride for close to 3 hours, effort was there but not the hungry tog I was hoping for. But like you said, at least we tried. Better than surfing the net all day.
kurtisb
02-21-2016, 06:51 PM
I got a call Saturday morning, that my Monday trip was cancelled.
shrimpman steve
02-21-2016, 09:41 PM
I was there, never did spot you Reelron. I was the guy in the funny hat. Long slow boat ride for close to 3 hours, effort was there but not the hungry tog I was hoping for. But like you said, at least we tried. Better than surfing the net all day.
Truth in reporting. The pic says it all:o
I was there, never did spot you Reelron. I was the guy in the funny hat. Long slow boat ride for close to 3 hours, effort was there but not the hungry tog I was hoping for. But like you said, at least we tried. Better than surfing the net all day.
Hello, Dan
You looks great on those hats, zero fish on the boat but still better then surfing internet for sure, thats why it call fishing not catching. I lease you had good time on the boat as I see smile on your face..maybe see you on tile fishing again, like we did good on last fall......
jay
Reelron
02-23-2016, 08:03 AM
I got a call Saturday morning, that my Monday trip was cancelled.
Yea, I was talking to the mate, Wes, about my new rod. I told him your brother built the rod & mentioned that you would be on the trip Monday. He said Monday ain't gonna happen. I see they did catch some fish on SUnday. I guess we just picked the wrong days?
Reelron
02-23-2016, 08:06 AM
I was there, never did spot you Reelron. I was the guy in the funny hat. Long slow boat ride for close to 3 hours, effort was there but not the hungry tog I was hoping for. But like you said, at least we tried. Better than surfing the net all day.
Opposite sides of the boat. As you can tell, I maintain a very low profile when fishing!
PaBeerGuy
02-23-2016, 01:15 PM
Opposite sides of the boat. As you can tell, I maintain a very low profile when fishing!
That tog didn't come up on our trip did it? I must have been asleep when it happened if it did.:eek:
Joey Dah Fish
02-23-2016, 02:36 PM
That tog didn't come up on our trip did it? I must have been asleep when it happened if it did.:eek:
Ummmmmmm NO
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