Stripers added to the do not eat list in D C.

[Castaway]

http://wjla.com/news/local/dc-to-locals-dont-eat-our-rockfish

[NoLimit]

There used to be a lot of PCBs, DDT, etc everywhere in the 50's and 60's and people were living longer than ever. There is some speculation that they never proved they were actually harming people. It might be just like all the other scares like fracking, paraquat, swine flu and who knows what.

http://www.eco-imperialism.com/myths-and-facts-about-ddt/

[PaBeerGuy]

There used to be a lot of PCBs, DDT, etc everywhere in the 50's and 60's and people were living longer than ever. There is some speculation that they never proved they were actually harming people. It might be just like all the other scares like fracking, paraquat, swine flu and who knows what.

http://www.eco-imperialism.com/myths-and-facts-about-ddt/

I'll never try smoking a striper but no problem eating one. They're hard to light up anyway.:eek:

[Striper80]

Maybe that will hurt the commercial market down south for them.

[shrimpman steve]

Number one, that was a sickly looking striper

Number two, a very interesting read on DDT. REMINDS ME OF GLOBAL WARMING. Just another political agenda

[NoLimit]

Thats right - after fearing all the doom and gloomers over the past 50 years, I can not recall any of them that came out correct. People I know made themselves sick worrying about drinking whole milk of butter or a steak and now we know it is all BS

[Gerry Zagorski]

The Potomac is a practically a cesspool. I would not eat anything out of it just like I wouldn't eat anything out of Elizabeth/Newark Bay.

That does not mean Stripers in all areas are unfit for consumption... It means resident Stripers that stay in Potomac areas are not fit for consumption.

[Irish Jigger]

Had it last night vacuum sealed since November. It was awesome!!!

[joerosa1]

Thats right - after fearing all the doom and gloomers over the past 50 years, I can not recall any of them that came out correct. People I know made themselves sick worrying about drinking whole milk of butter or a steak and now we know it is all BS
For over a decade I hadn't eaten an egg trying to watch my cholesterol....went on the Angler and Bob (the cook) told me about a study that debunked the egg "myth". Last year the USDA changed their dietary guidelines noting eggs aren't that bad. Need to use common sense, eating any fish from a polluted waterway may not be a good idea.

[Gerry Zagorski]

There are resident fish and fish that migrate. Resident fish stay were they are and if they stay in those areas I would not eat them... Could some migratory fish from those areas show up off Sandy Hook? Yes, they probably do and will, but they haven't spent their entire lives there.

[mahigold]

i eat them out of the east river. these are the same fish that will be on the jersey shore a few days later. Tell some people its from the river they wont touch, from the shore they love it!

[shrimpman steve]

Interesting little fact. The east river is not a river at all but a tidal straight. Just a little factoid:)

[Gerry Zagorski]

Yep and it gets flushed 2 times a day by the tides from Lower NY Bay and the LI Sound... I would not be concerned about eating those fish.

[Capt Sal]

There was a big stink over this years ago. The higher ups decided that the stripers in Raritan Bay that were going up the Hudson to spawn were not edible. I guess they got contaminated on there trip up north from wintering off the coast of North Carolina lol More good science from our friends at NOAA

[NJ219bands]

I caught a striper at Barnegat Inlet that was tagged in the Hudson River and I tagged a striper at Barnegat Inlet that was recaptured at the Troy dam on the Hudson River in upstate, NY, when there was a health advisory for PCBs in Hudson River striped bass many years ago. I can't tell the difference between local and migratory stripers.

[1captainron]

Amazing, yet Talapia are a Chefs dream! Swill, shit eating poison with no regs on it!

[Capt Sal]

Amazing, yet Talapia are a Chefs dream! Swill, shit eating poison with no regs on it!

Capt. Ron Sr has been eating ''Jersey'' fish for more than 75 years and he doesn't glow in the dark!!! lol:eek:

[ALS Mako]

the real question is how are the tests being done. from what i understand, they take a whole fish and puree it; then they use this solution for their testing. my understanding of pcbs and most toxins for that matter get trapped in the fatty areas of the body (fish or mammal). most toxins can be avoided by not eating the fatty parts of the fish ;ie. guts, skin, belly meat, dark meat. if you are are eating the white fillets- then you are pretty safe. this is just what i have been told over the years and i believe it...or i could just be talking out my arse

[joemont]

There used to be a lot of PCBs, DDT, etc everywhere in the 50's and 60's and people were living longer than ever. There is some speculation that they never proved they were actually harming people. It might be just like all the other scares like fracking, paraquat, swine flu and who knows what.

http://www.eco-imperialism.com/myths-and-facts-about-ddt/

just curious paraquat , and fracking aren't real scares?

[Reel Class]

The Potomac has historically been a cess pool. Similar to the upper Hackensack, Passaic, and Raritan Rivers!

[shrimpman steve]

Show me facts that fracking is harmful.

[bulletbob]

The Potomac has historically been a cess pool. Similar to the upper Hackensack, Passaic, and Raritan Rivers!

Yet the Passaic teems with Pike and black bass, all notoriously clean water species that need good oxygen content.. The Raritan has been going great guns with trout and smallies for years and Walleyes are more common every year.
The Hacky is loaded with fish these days.. A damn Sheepshead was caught there last year.... Same with the Hudson, simply loaded with fish of all species, and people eat them all te time...
The "cess pool "status you allocated to the rivers in question was well deserved , until the 80's.. The turnaround has been slow, but steady, and compared to what I knew as a young man in NJ, has been dramatic...
Much of the pcp and chemical pollution is under decades of sediment, and will stay there hopefully.. I was unable to fish the Passaic as a kid. There were NO fish except eels and killies.Same with the Hacky..The Passaic is now one of the premier Pike fisheries on the east coast, and the Hacky yields 25 pound stripers to urban fishermen in relative isolation. I am very hopeful for the rivers you mentioned. They get cleaner and more productive each year.... bob

[NoLimit]

just curious paraquat , and fracking aren't real scares? Back in the 70's, everyone was scared of dying from cancer because "they sprayed pot with paraquat". Then, everyone was going to die of AIDS. We also had Global Freezing. Now the bogeymen are fracking and global warming and Eboli and Zika. Its all BS. There is no more dumping in the rivers and has not been since the 80's. I have never heard about an incidence of higher death rates for people eating Jersey seafood so that tells me it is safe. If it wasnt, we would be seeing people getting sick (or worse).

[Capt Sal]

just curious paraquat , and fracking aren't real scares?

Chicken little-''The sky is falling'' lol

[SaltLife1980]

Im not a big fan of eating bass anyways. I think I let go everyone I caught last year. I think i might have saved one for pops

[NoLimit]

just curious paraquat , and fracking aren't real scares? All those pictures of dirty well water is not fracking fluid. Those are wells in Pennsylvania, NY, etc where the gas and oil is in very shallow deposits. The oil and gas was there millions of years before these people came in and sunk their water wells. The water is ok for a while but as the table changes, surrounding gas and oil encroaches into the water well. http://www.earthmagazine.org/article/naturally-occurring-methane-found-groundwater-new-york

Also the Paraquat Pot scare never hurt a single person.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraquat

[Reel Class]

Yet the Passaic teems with Pike and black bass, all notoriously clean water species that need good oxygen content.. The Raritan has been going great guns with trout and smallies for years and Walleyes are more common every year.
The Hacky is loaded with fish these days.. A damn Sheepshead was caught there last year.... Same with the Hudson, simply loaded with fish of all species, and people eat them all te time...
The "cess pool "status you allocated to the rivers in question was well deserved , until the 80's.. The turnaround has been slow, but steady, and compared to what I knew as a young man in NJ, has been dramatic...
Much of the pcp and chemical pollution is under decades of sediment, and will stay there hopefully.. I was unable to fish the Passaic as a kid. There were NO fish except eels and killies.Same with the Hacky..The Passaic is now one of the premier Pike fisheries on the east coast, and the Hacky yields 25 pound stripers to urban fishermen in relative isolation. I am very hopeful for the rivers you mentioned. They get cleaner and more productive each year.... bob

Bob, would you eat fish out of the passaic, raritan, or hackensack rivers? Be honest!

[Capt Sal]

Bob, would you eat fish out of the passaic, raritan, or hackensack rivers? Be honest!

Are you saying the ''Raritan'' is polluted? I hope not!

[bulletbob]

I would probably follow the posted guidlines-they are usually posted near the fishing areas.. Also it would depend on what and where.. Say a smaller bluefish from Newark Bay, yes.. It was a visitor, not a resident.. An eel?.. no.

The Hacky signs say Stripers are ok, not to eat White Perch, Catfish, etc... I would go with that.. Not a fan of stripers anyway.
Up river in the non tidal areas, I would eat the fish..

Same with the Passaic.. Non tidal areas, yes I would eat some of the fish.. Perch, Bluegills, a very stray walleye, etc.. I don't kill black bass, pickerel, pike, and don't like bullheads,,

The Raritan, non tidal areas, yes I would eat the fish.. Lower tidal areas, I would eat some of the fish.. No cats,eels etc.. If I caught some white or yellow perch, or any migratory species, fluke, blue, weakfish, or even a winter flounder or porgy or something like that, I would certainly eat them.

Lower Raritan gets flushed pretty good with bay and ocean water with those big channels cut through the bay right out into the ocean...
I dunno, to be 100 % honest I would say that I would be more cautious in eating fish from those rivers than I would be if they were caught say in Sandy Hook Bay or one of the upstate lakes, but there are some fish I would eat from them.. We ate crabs form the hacky when they started coming back in the 70s, and I think a lot of people still do, not sure.. In 10 years, I hope that all those rivers are clean enough not to even have restrictions... They may get there.. I hope they do. Meanwhile I am happy that NJ fishermen can enjoy some seriously good fishing in waters that were dead 40 years ago. bob

[Capt Sal]

The fact of the matter is the South Branch and North Branch of the Raritan are super clean and are alive with aquatic insects. There are May fly hatches and and they hold trout year round. From Johnson Park in Newbrunswick to the mouth of Raritan Bay in Perth Amboy it holds stripers ,fluke and weakfish.The crabbing is good also. There is natural reproduction of striped bass in this river according to marine biologists.Comparing the Raritan with the Hackensack is apples and oranges.The rivers in our state are cleaner now than when i was a kid.

[Blind Squirrel]

Show me facts that fracking is harmful.
Here are some actual facts on fracking, both pro and con:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/g161/top-10-myths-about-natural-gas-drilling-6386593/
There's no mention there of the vastly increased incidence of earthquakes in Oklahoma and other fracking areas:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/research/induced/
but the practice clearly does not get a clean bill of health, nor is any non-renewable energy source a long-term solution.

[shrimpman steve]

Here are some actual facts on fracking, both pro and con:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/g161/top-10-myths-about-natural-gas-drilling-6386593/
There's no mention there of the vastly increased incidence of earthquakes in Oklahoma and other fracking areas:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/research/induced/
but the practice clearly does not get a clean bill of health, nor is any non-renewable energy source a long-term solution.

Read the article. I think the benefits far outweigh the drawbacks. Not to mention some of the drawbacks can be addressed with more conciensious procedures. Certainly not the scare showed in gasland blaming fracking for faucets of flame. Very disingenuous and nothing but a scare tactic.

[Blind Squirrel]

Read the article. I think the benefits far outweigh the drawbacks. Not to mention some of the drawbacks can be addressed with more conciensious procedures. Certainly not the scare showed in gasland blaming fracking for faucets of flame. Very disingenuous and nothing but a scare tactic.
I wouldn't have posted the PopMech article if I hadn't read it. It and the one from the USGS on induced earthquakes are simply in response to "Show me facts that fracking is harmful."

[Invisible Ralph]

I am a high-voltage lineman. I have been dealing with PCBs in transformer oil since the late 70s . To the best of my knowledge the only way PCBs have been known to be a carcinogen is when they're heated to about 1100°F. They then release a compound known as furans . And inhaled can cause cancer. But I will continue to eat the hell out of Striped Bass!

[Skolmann]

The Potomac has historically been a cess pool. !

Well DUH, with all the sh*t coming out of DC is it any wonder ?

[Taxman]

don't eat the Strippers in DC either if you want to stay safe :eek::D