Major review planned of all federal fishing rules

[newsman]

The National Marine Fisheries Services plans a thorough review of all its fishing rules and is taking public input. Now's your chance to comment. See http://www.examiner.com/article/review-planned-on-all-national-fishing-regulations-input-sought?cid=db_articles

[shrimpman steve]

I hate to sound like a negative Nellie, but do you really think they care what we have to say:mad:

[BCinerie]

If you do not try , don't bitch for the next decade when we are getting screwed
On the regs! Do I think it Makes a difference nope! But I will do it anyway to make me feel like I did something !

[shrimpman steve]

As usual, you are the voice of reason and correct.

[Joey Dah Fish]

Lol I clicked on link and low and behold the comment section had been withdrawn. What a crock of s**t they don't want our comments. They already know what we think. They are ignorant idiots.

[1captainron]

Are you kidding me??? They have the Scientist, the Biologist, the BS numbers that come out of thin air, The trawl surveys that take place either, long after the fish are gone or maybe 5 miles down the road from where the Fish actually are, and you want my impute?

How's this: You've just about put me out of business but my resilience and hard work ethic has kept me alive....You hate that, as if I were gone, it would be much easier to continue with your agenda of getting people out of the fishing business and off the water.
My Emails and letters of how the Habitat is being destroyed have gone UN-noticed and never once mentioned over several years....It's fallen on Deaf ears.

NO, I do not have a PHD...but I've been on the water all my life, I know you can't dump tons of muck over miles and miles and expect anything to live!!!
But wait, it's been me all these years totally depleting the stocks! I don't make a pimple on a ducks ass towards the "BIO-MASS", catching what we do in a season....Yet, we have to Genuflect and thank them for going another 1/2 inch up on the Fluke to 18 inches!

Guess what, I survived bitches, I'm still here! Now the Striped Bass are at issue, one fish, who knows what size, but you have some choices! More Bullshit! Please select the one option that really doesn't matter cause most of the options are killing the breeders anyway...another brainstorm and more BS! Any Impute from the Pro's on this one?


All this after the fabulous gift of a, One Week of a Sea Bass Opening! Another slap in the Face because you can.....Hope you feel whole when you come home to your famelies knowing that you just stuck another man in the ass, because you could.

For me it's my life, for the customers it's a hobby, there are plenty of hobbies people can find when the shit hit's the fan as it has been the past few years......I will eventually go away but they will never take My Passion, My Pride, My bust Ass attitude that I've had all my life, they will never take my Voice as long as I Live!! :mad:

[HDMarc]

Went on and this is what was posted under comments; "The contents of the section were withdrawn at the request of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the Department of Commerce." Really?:confused:

[reason162]

You hate that, as if I were gone, it would be much easier to continue with your agenda of getting people out of the fishing business and off the water.

Just curious: what in your opinion is the motivation for that agenda? Why are you convinced that that's their agenda in the first place?

[Joey Dah Fish]

Just curious: what in your opinion is the motivation for that agenda? Why are you convinced that that's their agenda in the first place?

My opinion is they favor the commercial guys because of the lobby money. When it comes to government agencies. The only thing they truly care about is their budget for next year. Trying to make their job important. I will fish and my children will fish as will my grandchildren. These waters are our owned by the people not government appointees period. The can kiss my white ass.

[HDMarc]

My opinion is they favor the commercial guys because of the lobby money. When it comes to government agencies. The only thing they truly care about is their budget for next year. Trying to make their job important. I will fish and my children will fish as will my grandchildren. These waters are our owned by the people not government appointees period. The can kiss my white ass.

Amen to that!

[shrimpman steve]

Don't you mean your pasty white ass:p

[HDMarc]

Don't you mean your pasty white ass:p

How do you know this, Steve? :D

[rumster]

Just curious: what in your opinion is the motivation for that agenda? Why are you convinced that that's their agenda in the first place?

Why? Are you kidding me.... Wake up!!! When the average guy can`t even fish to bring a meal home to his family where does he go? He goes to some large chain to buy the fish that pays money to sell the product. We (Fisherman,Party/Charter boats, Bait and tackle shops are being marginalized and put out of business by ridiculous regulations so that the powers that be can carry out there agendas by reducing the opposition.
It`s all about $$$$ my friend, from lobbyists that represent the netters and line the pockets of politicians, to large chain stores that sell fish at ridiculous prices.

[Gerry Zagorski]

And don't forget PITA and the Enviro Whackos who don't want any fishing being done... This sort of BS is picked up and carried by our executive branches that manage NOAA


Article by: Robert Montgomery ESPNOutdoors.com


The Obama administration will accept no more public input for a federal strategy that could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing the nation's oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters.

AP/Luis M. Alvarez
One sign at the United We Fish rally at the Capital summed up the feelings of recreational and commercial fishermen. This announcement comes at the time when the situation supposedly still is "fluid" and the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force still hasn't issued its final report on zoning uses of these waters.

That's a disappointment, but not really a surprise for fishing industry insiders who have negotiated for months with officials at the Council on Environmental Quality and bureaucrats on the task force. These angling advocates have come to suspect that public input into the process was a charade from the beginning.

"When the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) and International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW) completed their successful campaign to convince the Ontario government to end one of the best scientifically managed big game hunts in North America (spring bear), the results of their agenda had severe economic impacts on small family businesses and the tourism economy of communities across northern and central Ontario," said Phil Morlock, director of environmental affairs for Shimano.

"Now we see NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) and the administration planning the future of recreational fishing access in America based on a similar agenda of these same groups and other Big Green anti-use organizations, through an Executive Order by the President. The current U.S. direction with fishing is a direct parallel to what happened in Canada with hunting: The negative economic impacts on hard working American families and small businesses are being ignored.

"In spite of what we hear daily in the press about the President's concern for jobs and the economy and contrary to what he stated in the June order creating this process, we have seen no evidence from NOAA or the task force that recreational fishing and related jobs are receiving any priority."

Fisheries In Danger Consequently, unless anglers speak up and convince their Congressional representatives to stop this bureaucratic freight train, it appears that the task force will issue a final report for "marine spatial planning" by late March, with President Barack Obama then issuing an Executive Order to implement its recommendations — whatever they may be.

Led by NOAA's Jane Lubchenco, the task force has shown no overt dislike of recreational angling, but its indifference to the economic, social and biological value of the sport has been deafening.

Additionally, Lubchenco and others in the administration have close ties to environmental groups who would like nothing better than to ban recreational angling. And evidence suggests that these organizations have been the engine behind the task force since before Obama issued a memo creating it last June.

As ESPN previously reported, WWF, Greenpeace, Defenders of Wildlife, Pew Environment Group and others produced a document entitled "Transition Green" shortly after Obama was elected in 2008. What has happened since suggests that the task force has been in lockstep with that position paper.

Then in late summer, just after he created the task force, these groups produced "Recommendations for the Adoption and Implementation of an Oceans, Coasts, and Great Lakes National Policy." This document makes repeated references to "overfishing," but doesn't once reference recreational angling, its importance, and its benefits, both to participants and the resource.

Additionally, some of these same organizations have revealed their anti-fishing bias by playing fast and loose with "facts," in attempts to ban tackle containing lead in the United States and Canada.

That same tunnel vision, in which recreational angling and commercial fishing are indiscriminately lumped together as harmful to the resource, has persisted with the task force, despite protests by the angling industry.

As more evidence of collusion, the green groups began clamoring for an Executive Order to implement the task force's recommendations even before the public comment period ended in February. Fishing advocates had no idea that this was coming.

Perhaps not so coincidentally, the New York Times reported on Feb. 12 that "President Obama and his team are preparing an array of actions using his executive power to advance energy, environmental, fiscal and other domestic policy priorities."

[reason162]

Why? Are you kidding me.... Wake up!!! When the average guy can`t even fish to bring a meal home to his family where does he go? He goes to some large chain to buy the fish that pays money to sell the product. We (Fisherman,Party/Charter boats, Bait and tackle shops are being marginalized and put out of business by ridiculous regulations so that the powers that be can carry out there agendas by reducing the opposition.
It`s all about $$$$ my friend, from lobbyists that represent the netters and line the pockets of politicians, to large chain stores that sell fish at ridiculous prices.

I agree that the rec/comm disparity is galling. I was more questioning the hysterical fear mongering rhetoric re banning fishing for everyone, ie looping rational, environmentally-conscious people (like many responsible anglers) into the larger crazy-"tree-hugger" camp.

[reason162]

And don't forget PITA and the Enviro Whackos who don't want any fishing being done...

This is what I'm talking about. Yes there are whackos out there who want to ban all fishing and hunting, but there also exists a vast middle ground where people believe in conservation through a sober examination of data and evidence. Granted, we don't have reliable data, but that shouldn't reduce any discussion of fisheries management to "those nutjobs want to take away fishing for everyone!" type of hysteria.

It's interesting that you mention PETA. I love animals, and I am appalled by how they are treated on factory farms and puppy mills etc. I agree with much of what PITA tries to do, but because they made a decision to recruit crazies, I can't help but see them as caricatures of extremism. It's a shame, really, even though their efforts have had the most impact on animal welfare in this country out of any animal welfare group. They would be more successful if they pruned out the crackpots among them.