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msgdan
09-06-2014, 01:00 PM
After a short trip on the river this morning wuth about 7 pike landed, I was making my way back to the launch and found this guy floating belly up, down the river. A nice 28" pickerel that I took out of the water to look at.

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After taking a look inside the mouth, I found this inside his mouth, pretty far in. It looks like there was thin braid that was still attached to the lure, and it looked like it was cut ! I know $hit happens and every fish we handle out of the water has a chance of not making it, but I just wonder if the fisherman that caught this even had pliers long enough to even try to remove the lure.

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It took me a few seconds to remove the lure (I know...easy when the fish is already dead) but I just wanted to be sure that whatever eats this fish, doesn't have to worry about the hooks.

I will stick to single hook spinner baits !

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Danny V

gwl2oneida
09-06-2014, 01:22 PM
I usually cut my trebles down to 2 hooks. Much more manageable.

Jigman13
09-06-2014, 02:25 PM
That's mighty unfortunate. That pickerel inhaled that hula popper! Sawed the angler off and never really had a chance. Terrible demise for such a big fish... But like u said, it happens.

buzzbaiter
09-06-2014, 03:27 PM
28" is almost max size for pickerel. Damn shame for both the fish and angler. Somebody was cursing after losing that fish!

antgogz
09-06-2014, 05:18 PM
Wow what a shame. I have never caught a pickeral that big. But I must agree, I do not like using treble hooks when it comes to fishing for pickeral or pike. I have lost too many fish from them snapping the line with their teeth. At least with bass hou know they most likely won't snap the line.

flatcreek
09-06-2014, 06:28 PM
I fish for Hybrid mainly and never use triple hooks. Some guys practice catch and release and use a bait rig with a triple in the back and some use a single triple and catch and release, I don't get it. Using a triple with bait just seams like cheating to me I think it may have been illegal when I was a kid or I just thought that, not sure.
What I did want to mention a hook remover I picked up at walmart for 7 bucks and it works great. Its a tube with a little hook hanging out the end and when you squeeze the handles the hook slides inside the tube. This works great for deep hooked fish, you put the hook over the shank of the fish hook and squeeze, it turns the hook and it just pops out. I was amazed and the one I got floats.:)

AndyS
09-06-2014, 10:03 PM
Amazing, thanx for posting. I like to use tiny light wire hooks for live lining herring, should the fish get gut hooked it may stand a chance.

stevejordan
09-07-2014, 09:48 AM
the guy was probably fishing for bass and didnt even know there were fish in there with teeth... sucks for him and the fish. congrats on a brand new hula popper dan!

NorthJerzyG
09-07-2014, 10:22 AM
That sucks for both fish, and fisherman. I wonder how old that fish was? I always use a leader now even if not targeting toothies. Gets the same amount of strikes from all species and if a toothy critter grabs what I'm throwing I'm confident I will land it. Remember, use protection....... :D

Eskimo
09-07-2014, 10:30 AM
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Could the line have been cut by the fish's teeth?

I presume the post-release mortality is high for pike and large pickerel just because some anglers don't know how to deal with a fish with sharp teeth.

It doesn't appear the fish starved to death. It may have bled out from the hooks puncturing all the large veins between the gills and the heart.



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Denlon
09-07-2014, 10:43 AM
28" is almost max size for pickerel.

I'm sure pickerel of this size are rare.
I'm 72 and in my lifetime of fishing in NJ I have caught only two 30" pickerel. Both of them were caught in Davidson's Mill Pond in about the same spot in the lily pads up near the Route 130 Bridge. I was in my canoe, and I caught them with a single hook and the old standby purple rubber worm. Both times they were released alive in good condition. Both were caught about 15 years ago.

Also, since I caught them about a year apart in about the same location, which makes me wonder if I caught the same fish twice?
Denny

Fishon1982
09-07-2014, 10:44 AM
Shame, but who know what happened. One great tool to have when fishing lures with treble hooks is a pair of small hand bolt cutter 15$ Home Depot but if the hooks are lodged in the with all of the some times easy just to cut the tip of the hooks off and get the hard bait out quickly

liveitup1.75liter
09-09-2014, 07:39 AM
I get pist off when bass guys dont use a leader in musky waters.. if it says its a trophy musky lake then put a leader on u idiots!!! Seriously.. u need to worry bout a top preadator freight training ur lure n slicein through ur line V.S few mist bites from a line shy bass.. i think a leader should be required in trophy musky lakes!!! Cuz stuff like this does happen n kills old big butes.. kind of like not havein a rubber when ur picking up hookers..ur just asking 4it

buzzbaiter
09-09-2014, 08:31 AM
I'm sure pickerel of this size are rare.
I'm 72 and in my lifetime of fishing in NJ I have caught only two 30" pickerel. Both of them were caught in Davidson's Mill Pond in about the same spot in the lily pads up near the Route 130 Bridge. I was in my canoe, and I caught them with a single hook and the old standby purple rubber worm. Both times they were released alive in good condition. Both were caught about 15 years ago.

Also, since I caught them about a year apart in about the same location, which makes me wonder if I caught the same fish twice?
Denny

My pb best is 28" and I caught it in a surprising spot - the Delaware River up near Milford Pa. Thought I hooked a musky but its was skinny, beat up, really fugly chain pick. Long sob though. Must have washed out of some lake.

I caught two big pick in the Passaic three weeks apart in the same area off the same log. Thought were the same but they had diff't chain marks. Almost identical in size too @ 25" and 26".

Lard Almighty
09-09-2014, 09:14 AM
I get pist off when bass guys dont use a leader in musky waters.. if it says its a trophy musky lake then put a leader on u idiots!!! Seriously.. u need to worry bout a top preadator freight training ur lure n slicein through ur line V.S few mist bites from a line shy bass.. i think a leader should be required in trophy musky lakes!!! Cuz stuff like this does happen n kills old big butes.. kind of like not havein a rubber when ur picking up hookers..ur just asking 4itMost bass tackle can't handle a big musky anyway, so even with the leader the line is breaking and the fish is swimming off with a lure in its mouth. Fortunately most big muskies don't bother with smaller bass lures, so the chances of this happening are infrequent.