fluke skins

[bassnbucks]

I talked to a guy that was recently on a party boat.While mates were filleting they were throwing the skin in a bucket.The mate said they use them on the next trip for bait.Can someone clarify the law on this?

[njboarder]

I don't see anything wrong with that. Strips of fluke belly make very good bait. Actually, I prefer fluke belly over squid since it's much tougher to get it off the hook.

[dfish28]

I would have to say that boat shouldn't be mentioned and same rule would apply for belly : must have racks of legal length...

[Bucktailboys.com]

I would have to say that boat shouldn't be mentioned and same rule would apply for belly : must have racks of legal length...

Totally agree....What about the "ribs" when you fillet?

[bassnbucks]

I am just trying to see if the man considers the "skins" to be fluke belly.

[tjd24]

Guys, check the NJ Marine Digest under Finfish/Filleting because you could be issued a violation of the Regs for keeping skins/strips.

It states that: "No parts of any fish caught on a previous fishing trip shall be in possession."

I don't agree, but what are you gonna' do?

[aduma1107]

If caught without the racks it's 35 bucks a ribbon plus a 20 buck fee. So 55 bucks per ribbon if caught without legal sized racks.

[Gerry Zagorski]

Correct. You can be fined it you don't have the racks to prove the fish you took them from was of legal size.

As far as the skin and the ribbons... The skin is the skin and the ribbons are the outside of the skins where the small bones/fins are.. Usually some meat left on them after filleting so they are prefferd over the skins. Cut them in long strips jusy like you would squid.

[kurtisb]

I heard that a non sponsor party boat recently lost their fillet permit for supplying strips.

[1captainron]

TOTAL BS!!! Only because of a "couple boats" cutting shorts, and I was told this directly from the powers that be....it now cost me over $1800 so far this season for Freaking Squid!!

Enforcement has to enforce but when it get's thrown in their face, we all have to suffer.:mad:

[Finnegan]

I understand the rule to be:

Anglers may fillet one legal-sized summer flounder (fluke) from their daily possession limit catch for use as bait. This carcass, commonly known as the rack, shall be kept intact so it can be measured for compliance with the minimum size limit. No parts of any summer flounder caught on a previous fishing trip shall be in possession; only fish just caught on this outing.

[Dawgs]

what do the new york regs say?

[1captainron]

what do the new york regs say?

your screwed.:d

[1captainron]

what do the new york regs say?

your screwed. :d

[Solemate]

So if you fillet up your first keeper for the rack then all the strips you have are ok?

[Blind Archer]

Only if you cut them reeeeeaaaally thin.:)

[PALMERS TACKLE]

This rule has made me nuts for years..when i get a few nice keepers and take the fish home , fillet them and then take the ribbons salt them and freeze them for future trips i never saw a problem or reason why i couldn't use the strips.
Have been boarded in the past and the officer was decent because the strips were still partially frozen..did not give me a fine BUT DID MENTION THE RULE!
-Pnarty boat fluking captains could save a ton of money on squid from their fares fillets using the discarded strips.
Makes no sense to me as the boats pay a fee for their fillet permit--they should be able to strip out carcass for bait use as part of the fillet license.
I always thought the rule as most fisheries regs made no darn sense