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torchee
03-14-2014, 01:15 PM
The regs in NY have keep me in NJ, especially those years when the size was 19+ in NY.
I do most of my fluking from my kayak. It seems like breezy pt and Jamaica Bay on a calm day is going to be much more tempting.


We'll likely see some highlands boats fishing off NYC as well.

Now if only the tolls were less...

frugalfisherman
03-14-2014, 01:34 PM
Do both. You can keep 5 in NY and 5 in NJ.

Harpoon
03-14-2014, 01:52 PM
Dont forget....the central/south jersey guys can reach Delware within 2 hours now. @16" fluke its very enticing to head down there now.

arat
03-17-2014, 10:10 AM
I don't know about Jamaica bay. Out front of the island yeah but Jamaica bay here there are a ton of fish there but also heard they are usually less than 18, but that's just what I have gathered from some guys I talk to

Gerry Zagorski
03-17-2014, 10:26 AM
Lots of good places back in the bay to fish but it's tricky if you are not familiar with the area. You need a good chart or charplotter and pay close attention to it as the channels curve around a lot. It's a good early season spot as the water warms up pretty quickly.

RussA
03-17-2014, 03:47 PM
I don't know about Jamaica bay. Out front of the island yeah but Jamaica bay here there are a ton of fish there but also heard they are usually less than 18, but that's just what I have gathered from some guys I talk to

Then you need to talk to different people. :)

If I had these regulations last year and the year before and the year before that and so on, a limit would have been had in just a few hours and when I say few I mean 2 hours on average.

RussA
03-17-2014, 04:11 PM
Lots of good places back in the bay to fish but it's tricky if you are not familiar with the area. You need a good chart or charplotter and pay close attention to it as the channels curve around a lot. It's a good early season spot as the water warms up pretty quickly.

It's a good spot from beginning to finish of the fluke season...

Sharkyispy
03-18-2014, 07:07 AM
Do both. You can keep 5 in NY and 5 in NJ.

So there you have it NJ fishermen.....go to NY, take 5 that they want TO SHARE with us, come back to NJ get 5 more.....Thanks NY!!!!:D:D

The Sinker Man
03-18-2014, 07:29 AM
You better think about this one..If you leave Jersey and fish NY first and get 5 then stop in NJ on the way in and get 5 more, don't you really have 10..When you land in Jersey with 10 and the CO stops you aren't you really 5 over your limit?

Sharkyispy
03-18-2014, 07:33 AM
You better think about this one..If you leave Jersey and fish NY first and get 5 then stop in NJ on the way in and get 5 more, don't you really have 10..When you land in Jersey with 10 and the CO stops you aren't you really 5 over your limit?

Sam, I'm mocking here but hey if NY wants some of our quota we might as well share theirs too!!?? I know a place to stop in NY and then relaunch in NJ if necessary!! Better yet come back to NJ , unload and then go back out for the NJ limit.(it's legal to take two trips a day non a party boat)........:eek::rolleyes:

The Sinker Man
03-18-2014, 07:41 AM
Mike,If I fished NY and Nj I still wouldn't be able to come up with 5 total.

shrimpman steve
03-18-2014, 08:31 AM
I am going to rape ny waters this year!

Also if ever stopped will make sur I tell co's all fish were caught in ny. Let it go towards their quota

frugalfisherman
03-18-2014, 09:10 AM
What would be great is if all the Atlantic Highlands party boats went over to the NY side everyday. I think that would get some attention.

Billfish715
03-18-2014, 10:48 PM
I rarely saw N.Y. boats fishing in N.J. for fluke. Maybe an occasional PB but very few privates except in Ambrose. The size and bag limits on the N.Y. guys have been extremely severe. Imagine if it was us! The N.Y. guys were in the same mess as we were/are. The NMFS dictated their regulations with the same flawed data that they used to dictate ours. Don't take it out on the N.Y. guys. They went through a lot and still managed to keep their heads and catch keeper N.Y. fish during it all. It's an even playing field now. If they catch fish in N.J. waters it counts against their quotas. If we catch them in N.Y. waters, it counts against ours. this is not a contest between two states. It should be a bond between two neighbors who have a common interest for laws that are sound and sensible for everyone. One last thing.......the N.Y guys seem to have managed to keep the bunker boats out of their side of the Raritan which has helped us to a degree even though we don't have the same luxury.

charterone2
03-19-2014, 05:28 AM
i rarely saw n.y. Boats fishing in n.j. For fluke. Maybe an occasional pb but very few privates except in ambrose. The size and bag limits on the n.y. Guys have been extremely severe. Imagine if it was us! The n.y. Guys were in the same mess as we were/are. The nmfs dictated their regulations with the same flawed data that they used to dictate ours. Don't take it out on the n.y. Guys. They went through a lot and still managed to keep their heads and catch keeper n.y. Fish during it all. It's an even playing field now. If they catch fish in n.j. Waters it counts against their quotas. If we catch them in n.y. Waters, it counts against ours. This is not a contest between two states. It should be a bond between two neighbors who have a common interest for laws that are sound and sensible for everyone. One last thing.......the n.y guys seem to have managed to keep the bunker boats out of their side of the raritan which has helped us to a degree even though we don't have the same luxury.

amen.

Sharkyispy
03-19-2014, 07:40 AM
I don't believe much of this was directed to the NY anglers in general as much as it was one individual who chose to rub $h!t in our faces and constantly negative....my .02

italianfisherman
03-19-2014, 03:32 PM
I am going to rape ny waters this year!

Also if ever stopped will make sur I tell co's all fish were caught in ny. Let it go towards their quota

it doesn't matter if you report/rape ny waters, the quota's are across the board from nj,ct,ny, it all counts as ONE..:)

shrimpman steve
03-19-2014, 08:03 PM
it doesn't matter if you report/rape ny waters, the quota's are across the board from nj,ct,ny, it all counts as ONE..:)

Italian
Your right. Just a sensitive subject.

Capt Sal
03-19-2014, 08:39 PM
it doesn't matter if you report/rape ny waters, the quota's are across the board from nj,ct,ny, it all counts as ONE..:)

If you looked at the reports we have to fill out every month to maintain our NY permit you would be amazed. If it helped I wouldn't care but it doesn't.

italianfisherman
03-20-2014, 05:51 AM
this whole thing is screw up..