This made me sick to watch

[HDMarc]

Yet they continue to put the screws to recreational anglers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inSNl01unzw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[RussA]

WHat about it makes you sick? The actual waste or the regulators that make them do that?

[HDMarc]

WHat about it makes you sick? The actual waste or the regulators that make them do that?

Both

[DaveTats]

Damn. Some nice fish there too.

What a shame

[makokeith]

Instead of dumping them in a bin he should have threw them over board right away. Maybe some of them would have survived. The whole thing makes me sick.

[Sharkyispy]

It's all over Facebook....and as I said there....my rods and reels don't pull in that many quality fish in one single great season, so again we are over fishing the quota how????? time to wake up.....

[Capt Joe]

Yep, and next week when the quota is 200 lbs, dipshit with the net will kill 2000lbs to get his 200 lb of jumbos.
And you think they give a shit? Never have and never will.

[AndyS]

How many days out of the year do they do this ?

[SaltLife1980]

Wow! :eek::rolleyes::eek:

[fishguy]

That is commercial fishing as it is currently regulated. It a damn shame.

[HDMarc]

Here's something a little closer to home here in NJ, jump ahead to the 4 minute mark, a lot of fish getting wasted here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqfC_TjEvIM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[bigal427]

that's commercial guys for you. They do not care how many fish they kill and waste as long as they make a buck. And they need to be regulated or they would wipe out all fish stocks but they need to find a better way.

[Dupes]

That's tough to watch. A waste of a valuable resource.

[Jigman13]

That is just sad... Sad, sad, sad... Dumping the future of the fish stock back into the drink--lifeless... Crab food... Regulatory efforts are so f'ed up it's not even funny.

[Michael82929]

Makes me wanna vomit.. no wonder the dog fish population is striving...

they have plenty to eat on the bottom of the ocean...

[Seamus]

Tough to watch, what a waste.

[Capt Sal]

Yet they can keep them at 14in and kill and discard hundreds of pounds everyday!The chosen few at the expense of everyone else.

[Solemate]

Used to see thousands of ling floating in the bay. Was told the coms would throw them Overboard to drive prices up. This was in the 70s. People do what they think is right to make a living. Regs are needed but must be fact based with unbiased oversite.

[Capt. Lou]

Nothing terribly new here , going on for years ! What's disgusting is that we all allow them to impose these GD ridiculous laws!
Unless someone gets all of us united we going down like a house of cards !
This pack of PHD fish fisheries managers that obliviously don't know or care to enact reasonable laws that we all can live under need to go.
How long can this abject mismanagement contuine , even at times r best efforts seem to always come up short .
Everyone explains what we need do it but getting anything accomplished at times seems bordering on the impossible !!
I'm not degrading any of our people that work their Asses off to counter this offensive fisheries law on r behalf , just frustrating as hell at times !!

[MohawkJD]

Why were all these fish in bins? Wouldn't it have been easier to throw them back alive than to store them in bins? It seems to me this guy killed a lot of good fish just to make a video.

[RussA]

Yep, and next week when the quota is 200 lbs, dipshit with the net will kill 2000lbs to get his 200 lb of jumbos.
And you think they give a shit? Never have and never will.

Thank You! :) I agree 100%

[HDMarc]

I guess that as long as those who dine at Red Lobster are happy with their "fresh fish", the rest of us can go pound salt...unbelievable

[dakota560]

The reason they were in the bin is they were probably dead when they came up from the weight in the trawl. Listen to what the guys is saying, the bottom was paved. If so, why drag so long....answer so they can cull to get the better priced fish. No one can show that video and feel they have a leg to stand on as far as the need for do away with regulation. I understand the frustration but to go out and kill that many fish to keep only the ones which fetch the best price is completely idiotic. The reason regulations are needed is precisely because of the behavior on this video and this idiot attempts to use it to rationalize why regulations aren't necessary when he's proving the exact opposite point by exploiting the resource. If there weren't limits, every one of those fluke and maybe five times that amount would have been harvested until the price plummets at the market to a point where it's cost prohibitive to bring the catch back to the dock. And then they'd throw the by-catch overboard anyway. Quotas should be put in place. A limited season should be implemented with oversight. Recreational guys need to be part of the solution as well but when is the last time that anyone saw a recreational angler, charter or party boat throw 100 5 - 7 lb fluke overboard because they exceeded their limit. It's absolutely tragic how public resources are decimated by a few greedy bastards and the corrupt politicians get their pockets lined for making it possible!

Dakota

[Dino]

always tough to watch things like this, but you have to understand.. the rules that make this guy dump 4 totes of large fluke overboard dead discard, also prevent him and the rest of the fleet from dialing in on them, and hammering them for sale at market.

very similiar to the bluefin/longline issue at the moment.

which is worse, the wastefulness of discarding thousands of pounds of beautiful big bluefin every season, or a longline industry that is allowed to sell them, and home in their sets on the bluefin grounds instead of picking them up as bycatch when surface longlining for swordfish and yellowfin.


I'd rather have the dead discards.

I believe in small govt, but I also know there is nothing easy about regulating fisheries. And I think the bluefin, swordfish, striped bass and fluke situations are much better now, then they were when gov't just stayed out of it.

[rumster]

At the end of the day it`s all about dollars and cents and the little guy always gets screwed in a corrupt system like this. With great footage like this why can`t we collectively use this as a perfect example of a screwed up system that`s abused. Pictures speak louder than words and I think that in the right forum this could be explosive if we chose to flood a meeting and use documented footage like this to make a point.
Between fish and game being caught with their hand in the cookie jar a year or two ago using boats worth $150,000 or more that were purchased for the enforcement of our resources used for family outings on the taxpayers dime and this. I have had enough.
Gerry what can we do to make some noise?

[HDMarc]

Gerry what can we do to make some noise?

For starters, you can follow along with Gerry's sticky post regarding the 2014 state regulations and send an email, get as many people you can to follow suit