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Fishfish
12-17-2013, 11:45 AM
Fluke Sea Bass options for 2014 set by ASMFC. You better comment!
Regional fluke management options approved for public comment

"Fluke Options Set for public Comment". Asbury Park Press December 17 2013. Ocean County Edition

*Regionalization of fluke regulations, instead of by individual states?
* includes Sea Bass regulations with a possible bag limit of five fish?

"The Draft Addendum, which offers a range of options, including one to keep the status quo, will be posted to the Commission website, wwww.asmfc.org, by Friday, Dec 20. Public comment will be accepted until 5 p. m. (EST) on Jan. 24, 2014 and should be forwarded to Kirby Rootes-Murdy, Fishery Management Plan Coordinator, 1050 N. Highland St., Suite 200 A-N, Arlington, VA 22201; 703.842.0741 (fax) or via email at krootes-murdy@asmfc.org. Include Draft Addendum XXV in the subject line."

dfish28
12-17-2013, 12:04 PM
So a 75% reduction in sea bass... Wtf! These guys will eat every other fish out of existence at that point, maybe even give dogfish a run for there money. Now that's management at its finest!!!:mad:

Chris1129
12-17-2013, 12:15 PM
5 Seabass????? R u kiddin me?

AndyS
12-17-2013, 12:30 PM
Look at the numbers:

1 weakfish, 1 blackfish for most of the year, no sea bass this winter after Jan. 1, 1 bluefin, 2 striped bass ( that may go to 1 in 2015)

The numbers keep going down and down and down.

RussA
12-17-2013, 12:50 PM
Welcome to the new norm... Keep voting Democrat! :)

I already have my pirates patch on and ready to go!

Jay
12-17-2013, 12:58 PM
I guess, it's time to take up another hobby! :mad:

Fishfish
12-17-2013, 02:04 PM
Didn't mean to scare anyone/everyone...but I did ...mean to scare you. There is a movement by NewYork to regionalize fluke resources to keep catch rates and sizes fair so as to keep the resource equitable for all. Should new York have a 19" minimum size ( I think it is 19") while NJ has enjoyed 17 1/2" thereby keeping more of the quota? Understandable argument, but then there goes state sovereignty? The Sea bass possibility of 5 fish is a possible reality, as you never know what government regulation is capable of! It is very possible that our catch size and quotas will remain the same. More of a probability if you comment....and thats the point. Do you remember the public meetings on fluke last year? Do you remember the written comment period last on shark regs? Well that just goes to show public input and again, thats the point of this thread! Thanks

Fish The Drop Off
12-17-2013, 02:55 PM
Here is the information that came from the ASMFC:


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE, DECEMBER 13, 2013
PRESS CONTACT, TINA BERGER, 703.842.0740

ASMFC Approves Draft Addendum XXV for Public Comment
Addendum Proposes Management Options for the 2014 Summer Flounder and Black Sea Bass Recreational Fisheries

Annapolis, MD – The Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission’s Summer Flounder, Scup and Black Sea Bass Management Board approved Draft Addendum XXV for public comment on proposed 2014 management approaches for summer flounder and scup recreational fisheries. For summer flounder, the Draft Addendum includes options that allow for management measures by region and the sharing of unused quota – both with the intent of providing more equity in recreational harvest opportunities along the coast. The specific regions being considered are (1) Massachusetts; Rhode Island through New Jersey; Delaware through Virginia; and North Carolina and (2) Massachusetts and Rhode Island; Connecticut through New Jersey; Delaware through Virginia; and North Carolina.

Draft Addendum XXV was initiated to address a growing concern that current summer flounder management measures (as established under the Fishery Management Plan) are not providing recreational fishermen along the coast with equitable access to the resource. Those measures, involving state-specific recreational management measures under conservation equivalency are increasingly being viewed as problematic due to several factors. These factors include: reliance upon recreational harvest estimates for a single year (1998) as the basis for individual state targets; a change in the abundance and distribution of the resource; and changes in the socio-economic characteristics of the fishery. The impact of the management program seemed to affect New York the most, with a 21” size limit (by 2009) and a very short season including mid-season closure. In 2013, with a fully recovered stock, New York’s minimum size (19”) was at least one inch higher than any other state, one and a half inches higher than its bordering states.

The Draft Addendum proposes a more flexible and equitable conservation approach that allows the management program to adjust to past, current, and future changes to the resource and the fishery. The biological characteristics of the summer flounder have changed with the restoration of this stock. In particular, there has been a substantial expansion in the size and age composition, with greater overall abundance and increased numbers of larger fish.

The Draft Addendum also proposes two options for the 2014 black sea bass recreational fishery (1) coastwide measures (currently proposed at 13” TL minimum size, a 5 fish possession limit, and a season from June 1 to September 30) or (2) the continued use of management measures by northern (MA – NJ) and southern regions (DE – NC). The regional management approach has been used since 2011 and offers some advantages over coastwide regulations, which can disproportionately impact states within the management unit. Specifically, regional measures can address geographic differences in the stock (size, abundance and seasonality) while maintaining the consistent application of management measures by neighboring states.

It is anticipated that several states will be conducting public hearings on Draft Addendum XXV. Information on those hearings will be released when it is finalized. Fishermen and other interested groups are encouraged to provide input on Draft Addendum XXV, either by attending state public hearings or providing written comment. The Draft Addendum will be posted to the Commission website (wwww.asmfc.org) by December 20, 2013. Public comment will be accepted until 5:00 PM (EST) on January 24, 2014 and should be forwarded to Kirby Rootes-Murdy, Fishery Management Plan Coordinator, 1050 N. Highland St., Suite 200 A-N, Arlington, VA 22201; 703.842.0741 (fax) or via email at krootes-murdy@asmfc.org (Subject line: Draft Addendum XXV).

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PR13-60

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Tina Berger
Director of Communications
Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission
1050 N. Highland Street, Suite 200A-N
Arlington, VA 22201

mako28
12-17-2013, 03:17 PM
How happy are all of you who gave up the fluke bag for a 1/2" ???

Hope you have learned !

Fish The Drop Off
12-17-2013, 03:25 PM
How happy are all of you who gave up the fluke bag for a 1/2" ???

Hope you have learned !


As for fluke there are just too many question that were not answered if we were to move to regional management. I believe that sharing the unused quota like we did this past year would work. I believe that our 2013 Landings for the whole coast will be under the 2014 quota.

Harpoon
12-17-2013, 03:32 PM
Thankfully they left my Ling alone!!! :D

GDubya07
12-17-2013, 05:21 PM
Taking the recs off of the water 1 fish at a time

broken bobber
12-17-2013, 06:44 PM
How happy are all of you who gave up the fluke bag for a 1/2" ???

Hope you have learned !

EXACTLY

tautog
12-17-2013, 06:55 PM
This is their typical ploy. They throw out a low ball number to get us all upset. Then they give us 15 fish at 13" or something like that and hope we all get down on our knees and thank them, forgetting that we still lost bag and size.

Foul Hook
12-17-2013, 07:43 PM
I had my worst Fluke season in recent memory. Not only did I fish just as much(ask the bride, she's always right) but only had one limit all year. When we found the fish you would go back for another drift and get notta:confused: wtf. These guys have got it all wrong. Keep what you want fellas we are all criminals!! p.s seabassin sucked too, one million shorts!:mad:

Fishfish
12-17-2013, 11:38 PM
I had my worst Fluke season in recent memory. Not only did I fish just as much(ask the bride, she's always right) but only had one limit all year. When we found the fish you would go back for another drift and get notta:confused: wtf. These guys have got it all wrong. Keep what you want fellas we are all criminals!! p.s seabassin sucked too, one million shorts!:mad:

You mean you didn't catch all those "1/2 a inches"?... And the rebuilt stocks of Sea Bass that were allowed to be fished last January and February?...really?.... who's fault? Sorry!....and IF there was an over fishing of the/a quota, there wasn't other "variables"?......................

mako28
12-18-2013, 09:50 AM
[QUOTE= I believe that our 2013 Landings for the whole coast will be under the 2014 quota.[/QUOTE]

The difference between knowing and believing:

1- I know we gave up bag for a 1/2"

2 - I know we will never get it back.

3 - I used to believe in Santa Claus.