Why must people slaughter bass???

[Type R Teggy]

Whats up guys . Im truely discusted by the actions ive seen take place these past couple of weeks.. as you all know the bass bite has been on fire. It sickens me to see peopls catch fish and call friends to come pick up the fish they have caught just to get more.. do you really need 10 fish? And I see yhe same people everyday catchinv and killinv all these bass. Even if you only keep your limit daily..let a few go!!!!!!! Ive caught over 20 keepers this spring anf every single bass was released .. think about our fishing future!

[bunker dunker]

because they can

[PAMonger]

I agree. I eat every fish I am allowed to keep. I don't advocate people dropping off fish and getting more, but if the law said i could keep 1 bass, I would keep 1. The law says I can keep 2 and a 3rd if I bust the piggybank for $2. As long as the person is doing something legal, they have the same right to enjoy them on the table as you do enjoying them swim away. Neither group is better/worse than the other.

[jmurr711]

I agree. I eat every fish I am allowed to keep. I don't advocate people dropping off fish and getting more, but if the law said i could keep 1 bass, I would keep 1. The law says I can keep 2 and a 3rd if I bust the piggybank for $2. As long as the person is doing something legal, they have the same right to enjoy them on the table as you do enjoying them swim away. Neither group is better/worse than the other.

yep i got my $2 tag & if i am lucky enough to catch 3 keepers when I go out I will keep all 3 & eat every bit

[Ol Pedro]

TRT, Like my friend BD said "because they can". Release all you want ! Set an example . If these 10%ers are breaking the law and it bothers you that much just drop a dime on them . Rat on um ! Seeing something and not doing anything about it is just as bad as doing it yourself.

[lakeOangler]

A bass once tried to spool me.......I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti



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[bunker dunker]

Ol Pedro X2

[jmurr711]

TRT, Like my friend BD said "because they can". Release all you want ! Set an example . If these 10%ers are breaking the law and it bothers you that much just drop a dime on them . Rat on um ! Seeing something and not doing anything about it is just as bad as doing it yourself.
true dat!

[Reel Class]

LOL

LAB where r u for this one???!!!

[dfish28]

Smoked striper dip, striper cakes,striper chowda,baked,grilled,fried...and many others- it's a great meat and texture

I like smoking stripers more than marlboros!

[DirtyChimneyMan]

LOL

LAB where r u for this one???!!!
LMAO!!!

[bunker dunker]

Lol!!! Alan That Had Lab Written All Over It.

[Ol Pedro]

I like to think that I Harvest the Ocean and select only the Tastiest Morsels releasing the rest. Slaughter is not the word that I would use because it leans towards domesticated animals .

[Stumpy]

You also need to consider folks like myself that only have the opportunity to fish stripers one day a year since I live 200+ miles from the ocean. If I keep two fish and play catch and release for the rest of the day, am I a slaughterer? And yes, I eat every filet.

[StriperGirl]

It upsets me too.....................but only because I am working and cannot join in! In all seriousness, its legal to do so. If I got out as much as some people I would keep my 3 fish every single time. I enjoy eating fish. At the same time, if I want to feed it to my cats or toss them in a crab trap, it makes no difference.

[shrimpman steve]

I have days that I dont feel like dealing with the fish and i have days that I or a friend wants a fillet. some days C&R, some days I take my limit. Taking fish to a car or dropping it off to go out and get more is wrong and should be reported.

This is a topic dirty cman does not have to worry about, as he has not had a limit yet:D

[Johnny Bucktails]

I am eating bass as i read this

[broken bobber]

LOL

LAB where r u for this one???!!!

"Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuudge Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat"

[njfisherman1975]

Might be fishing for them may 5th...and if we do...I am bringing my tag...and slaughtering three!!!

[jmurr711]

Might be fishing for them may 5th...and if we do...I am bringing my tag...and slaughtering three!!!

yes we are & I got my tag too! bass, bergalls & blues!

[GDubya07]

Whats up guys . Im truely discusted by the actions ive seen take place these past couple of weeks.. as you all know the bass bite has been on fire. It sickens me to see peopls catch fish and call friends to come pick up the fish they have caught just to get more.. do you really need 10 fish? And I see yhe same people everyday catchinv and killinv all these bass. Even if you only keep your limit daily..let a few go!!!!!!! Ive caught over 20 keepers this spring anf every single bass was released .. think about our fishing future!

If you see people catching fish and calling there friends to pick em up - Call Fish and Wildlife - call a game warden - cops -

All within the rules and regs = No Problem - Catch Kill It - Cook It

G-:cool:

[dakota560]

Whats up guys . Im truely discusted by the actions ive seen take place these past couple of weeks.. as you all know the bass bite has been on fire. It sickens me to see peopls catch fish and call friends to come pick up the fish they have caught just to get more.. do you really need 10 fish? And I see yhe same people everyday catchinv and killinv all these bass. Even if you only keep your limit daily..let a few go!!!!!!! Ive caught over 20 keepers this spring anf every single bass was released .. think about our fishing future!

Give TRT a break. I don't know him or off him so nothing personal. His point isn't all wrong nor are the responses but people don't have to be @#$% !*&! in their replies. People are entitled to what they can keep, 100% agree. In a few weeks, we'll be seeing pictures of dozens of 30 to 50 lb. fish lying on the docks which has always bothered me but yes it's allowed. When the time comes where restrictions are put in place because of over harvesting or we go back to the 70's when you couldn't find an 18 inch bass, the same people who are bitching about TRT's post will be the same ones bitching about the restrictions! I believe the spirit of his post is we're all guardians of the resource and it's not always about how many fish you can throw on the dock and post pictures about at the end of the day. That's all the guy was trying to say and everyone jumps all over his shit for caring about the fishery. It's great to know you can post your opinion with such a kind and understanding audience!

Bring LAB back so he can do what, throw fuel on the fire once again about someone who wanted to share his opinion so that the board regulars can berate him!

Dakota

[Reel Class]

Btw there's nothing wrong w subsistence fishing as long as no one is breaking the law. It's attitudes like this that take fishing catching and keeping away from us.

[Uncle Nicky]

I don't know anyone who catches or keeps more than the legal limit, I keep (and eat) all the legal fish I catch, mostly because I love the taste of striper, so does Mrs. & the kiddies. I wouldn't call that "slaughter". If the bass are being pressured, isn't it up to DEC to change the regulations?

[GDubya07]

If you see people catching fish and calling there friends to pick em up - Call Fish and Wildlife - call a game warden - cops -

All within the rules and regs = No Problem - Catch Kill It - Cook It

G-:cool:

All apologies if I personally came off rude or gave you a hard time - you expressed your opinion and I expressed mine

I personally don't Stryper fish - but with all other species I fish within the rules and regs

BTW - wait until the really big slobs and cows start coming down - which I think will happen in the next 2 weeks - Those fish are over 40lbs +
Wait until then and what people will be writing

Gdubs-:cool:

[bulletbob]

I see the reports here all the time... Boat floor or dock covered with bloody 15-20 pound stripers, and guys striking victory poses over the bodies for the digital camera. Guys go out, 3 or 4 times a week, limit after limit.. Fair enough, I wish I were able to. They "need" the fish to "feed family and friends" is a common theme expressed here..
If anyone says anything, they are castigated, and basically told to mind their own business. Yes we are all entitled to keep taking home big stripers day after day, as long as we stay within the state and federal possession laws..

I lived in Union Beach in the 80s... ANY striper was big news in those days.. For most anglers they simply didn't exist... It was hard long work to catch stripers of any size in those days, and few bothered to fish for them.... So here we are, the bass are back, and we take all we can keep with a clear conscience.. Fine.. In a few years, this intense hammering of the spawning stocks will takes its toll as it must, and anglers will blame everyone and every thing but themselves. A little self control really does go a long way, and the angry comments here from "sportsmen " is kind of puzzling..

I like this site but I have noticed something very odd..
Over in the freshwater section, the "bucket brigade" are ridiculed, dishonored and disliked for killing fish and taking them home to eat,yet here in the saltwater section, the guys with the largest piles of dead fish are hailed as conquering heroes..
I like eating fish as much as anyone, but do I REALLY need 100 pounds of stripers a week? every week, as long as they stick around??.. not me..
Some do I suppose..
Just don't say we weren't warned when the gravy train grinds to a halt...

By the way, Ling have been more and more scarce this past year.. who'd a thunk we would ever say ling are in trouble.. However, the writing is on the wall... Watch out for bag limits on Ling in the near future, but again, it not our fault.
Too many people killing too many fish.. pretty simple equation really.... bob

[seazu]

You Are 100% Correct, It Is Your Leagal Right, But..............whey They Say The Stock Is Diminishing And They Say We Cannot Keep Any.
Please Do Not Cry And Complain , You Will Already Know Why:(

[Honger]

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[Capt Sal]

Every season same shinnvvcdswswwssst.Not worth responding!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Art Berkman]

Lock it up !

Nuff said ;)

[Fishguts]

Great thread!!!!! So let me get this right , the Feds got it right on the stripers by allowing the current harvest limits but are totally clueless when it comes to managing every other species fluke and seabass included.
Also when a netter hangs 3000lb of pre spawn fish it's gonna collapse the whole stock but when the fleet puts 20,000 lbs on the docks in a weekend it's called good fishing.

Its time to quit the crying and belly aching and load the coolers . Many people remember the poor bass fishing in the eighties so now is the time to get all you can. I doesn't get any better than this. There are plenty of bass no need to feel bad about taking a limit and bonus fish .As an added bonus a few web sites have great recipes for striper row. Hate to see 7 to 10 lbs of tasty eggs thrown in the trash when cleaning a cow as I think they taste better than the fillets.

[CaptTB]

I lived in Union Beach in the 80s... ANY striper was big news in those days.. For most anglers they simply didn't exist... It was hard long work to catch stripers of any size in those days, and few bothered to fish for them.... So here we are, the bass are back, and we take all we can keep with a clear conscience.. Fine.. In a few years, this intense hammering of the spawning stocks will takes its toll as it must, and anglers will blame everyone and every thing but themselves. A little self control really does go a long way, and the angry comments here from "sportsmen " is kind of puzzling.. That statement would have some merit if....and I say IF... the circumstances today were the same as they were prior to the "barren 80's" as people call them.

But they are not. Prior to the fall of stripers there were no limits in most cases, and "taking all we can keep" as you say now is NOT the same thing as "taking all you can CATCH" which is what it was in the past. There was no coastal (mostly unless equivalent, more restrictive or Ches. bay) 2 fish @ 28" or greater limit back in the 50s and 60s and 70s, which was part of the reason for the demise of the population at that time.

There was no moratorium on federal waters fisheries in the 50s and 60s and 70s, which was part of the reason for the demise of the population at that time.

There was no law preventing commercial fishing for stripers in several states like there is today, which was part of the reason for the demise of the population at that time.

Comparisons of catching and keeping your legal 2 fish to what went on in the seventies is no comparison at all, the circumstances are VERY different and there are actually rules in place now that did not even exist then.

I like this site but I have noticed something very odd..
Over in the freshwater section, the "bucket brigade" are ridiculed, dishonored and disliked for killing fish and taking them home to eat,yet here in the saltwater section, the guys with the largest piles of dead fish are hailed as conquering heroes.. I disagree. One need look no further (farther?) than Johnny Bucktails' threads about his great fishing to see how many people tried to dogpile on the rabbit because he was killing those poor stripers en masse:rolleyes:

By the way, Ling have been more and more scarce this past year.. who'd a thunk we would ever say ling are in trouble.. However, the writing is on the wall... Watch out for bag limits on Ling in the near future, but again, it not our fault.
Too many people killing too many fish.. pretty simple equation really.... bobIf you are trying to say that because this year Ling fishing was slower that there is a problem with the stock I will have to again disagree with you. What about 4-5 years ago when the fishing totally sucked? If that was an indication of the downturn in a stock then why was the winter of 2011/2012 one of the best years of Ling fishing anyone has ever seen?

Having one slow season does not necessarily mean anything other than it was a slow season.

Perhaps the problem is too many people thinking that what they like should be what everyone likes or "else." I did not take that attitude from your post Bob but from others both in this thread and others like Johhny's threads.

[1captainron]

Every year as long as I can remember, the same discussion has come up...it's getting old. As long as we have the guys who need to Post, "It was a Slaughter", Massacre, Beat down and all the other BS that makes them feel they are great fishermen, we will have the guys who post just the opposite.
How do you slaughter 2 keeper Stripers? What actually is a Beat Down??? Please describe..............
For Christ sake, Fish, have a good day, if it's a great day, say it was great, good, excellent and so on, keep it simple stupid. All this other crap gives the powers that be more ammo to get us off the water.
As I say every year and I'll say it again, we Slaughter animals for food, we massacred the American Indian, A Beat Down is something used against terrorist's to gain information....how is this related to fishing?

Take two Bass, if you need three get a bonus tag, it's the law and you are allowed that. Problem is, with the current regulations on every fish out there, everyone is Bass fishing. The Party and Charter boats that used to fish Flounder and Black fish this time of year basically can't because of the regulations. The pressure on the Bass is going to kill the goose that layed the golden egg only because that's what we have been forced to do . In the end we are all screwed with nothing left to fish for. Is it our fault....NO Fricking way! Blame the experts with all the BS science and fake numbers that justify their jobs, only cause they can.
And just remember this, today's "We Slaughtered them" is tomorrow's "We got the Skunk". Happens all the time.

[makosnax]

I keep what Im gonna eat and release the rest. The word " limit" is looked at like a trophy these days but if youre gonna eat what you catch within the legal bag limit then go for it. To kill fish just to exclaim "limit!" I dont agree with.

[JOHN D]

The problem simple, we never learn.

[Webstersigam]

Since when has a simple fishing conversation taken the same tone as a conversation about politics or religion. The rules and regs are the rules and regs. I think some of the belly achers are being blinded by the pictures of a floor full of blood and fish piled up but in reality do the math....2 or 3 fish per person isn't really that much. Go out have fun keep what you are allowed and enjoy the great meal that these fish provide. Seeing I can't help myself by throwing in my own opinon...I support slot limits!:p

[mad8713]

Exactly, keep what you are going to eat. Fill the freezer if it's not going to be wasted. Some people don't fish as much as the rest of us, so if they want a bonus fish when the fishing good, so be it. If a customer on a charter fishes twice a year, there is nothing wrong with a bonus fish. Let's all just have some common sense. I just can't understand the private guys who fish everyday and take bonus fish everyday. They say they give the fish away, but chances are the people are wasting it. If you want to be a celebrity go on America Idol

[NoLimit]

We ate our catch from Sat today - Sundays catch will be gone by the end of the week.

[Type R Teggy]

Guys before any of you get the wrong idea I am not against limits myself. As of matter of fact I love to eat striped bass myself but I guess the sensation I get when I see that fish swim away knowing that it has a chance at life and to produce more fish for our fisheru overcomes the taste of the fish. I keep a bass or 2 here and there (after the spawn). I just dont see how people fish and keep limits daily.im talking the same people with a cooler full of clams/ bunker. I mean seriously. If you can afford all the bait that you use daily, equipment, ect. Im sure you can buy somthing else to eat then bass daily. Again nothing wrong with limits but when you have your friends coming with a rod just to keep more fish thats rediculous.

[RnK]

I don't know anyone who catches or keeps more than the legal limit, I keep (and eat) all the legal fish I catch, mostly because I love the taste of striper, so does Mrs. & the kiddies. I wouldn't call that "slaughter"....

Our sentiments exactly, striper is at the top of our favs for eating. We eat what we catch all year around and striper vacuum sealed and frozen lasts a good 6 months. We eat fish 3-4x a week, and a lot of it is striper.

Personally, I cringe at the use of "slaughter" when I see it in a report from the one or two captains that use it. I think it sends the wrong message, not only to our community, but certainly adds gasoline to the fire of the very vocal vegan's wrath. Just saying ....

Russ

[AndyS]

Personally I won't take any bass in the spring, I gained too much respect for these fish when I found them swimming up the Raritan river all the way to Bound Brook. I'll take a few in the fall, just not into taking a fish that is trying to spawn. Limit your kill, don't kill your limit.
Maybe only because I have seen declines in my lifetime, just looking out for the grand kids I guess.

[Ryelof]

That statement would have some merit if....and I say IF... the circumstances today were the same as they were prior to the "barren 80's" as people call them.

But they are not. Prior to the fall of stripers there were no limits in most cases, and "taking all we can keep" as you say now is NOT the same thing as "taking all you can CATCH" which is what it was in the past. There was no coastal (mostly unless equivalent, more restrictive or Ches. bay) 2 fish @ 28" or greater limit back in the 50s and 60s and 70s, which was part of the reason for the demise of the population at that time.

There was no moratorium on federal waters fisheries in the 50s and 60s and 70s, which was part of the reason for the demise of the population at that time.

There was no law preventing commercial fishing for stripers in several states like there is today, which was part of the reason for the demise of the population at that time.

Comparisons of catching and keeping your legal 2 fish to what went on in the seventies is no comparison at all, the circumstances are VERY different and there are actually rules in place now that did not even exist then.

I disagree. One need look no further (farther?) than Johnny Bucktails' threads about his great fishing to see how many people tried to dogpile on the rabbit because he was killing those poor stripers en masse:rolleyes:

If you are trying to say that because this year Ling fishing was slower that there is a problem with the stock I will have to again disagree with you. What about 4-5 years ago when the fishing totally sucked? If that was an indication of the downturn in a stock then why was the winter of 2011/2012 one of the best years of Ling fishing anyone has ever seen?

Having one slow season does not necessarily mean anything other than it was a slow season.

Perhaps the problem is too many people thinking that what they like should be what everyone likes or "else." I did not take that attitude from your post Bob but from others both in this thread and others like Johhny's threads.

Wow, Cap.....haen't you learned your lesson. Stop trying to be logical and make sense. However, good post and well thought out.

[CaptTB]

Wow, Cap.....haen't you learned your lesson. Stop trying to be logical and make sense. You are right, I should know better! But I am a glutton for punishment.


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[bunker dunker]

Nobody Saved Me Any Buffalo!!!! I'll Take What I Can With In The Law!!

[Gerry Zagorski]

OK - Gave this post more room then I should of. Now closed.