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njdiver
03-03-2013, 09:01 AM
Written by Wayne Parry Associated Press

Mar. 02 thenewsstar.com

MANTOLOKING, N.J. — On the surface, things look calm and placid. Just beneath the waterline, however, it's a different story.

Cars and sunken boats. Patio furniture. Pieces of docks. Entire houses. A grandfather clock, deposited in a marsh a mile from solid land. Hot tubs. Tons of sand. All displaced by Superstorm Sandy.

"We did a cleanup three weeks ago. Then when we went back the other day, you could still see junk coming up in the wash," said Paul Harris, president of the New Jersey Beach Buggy Association, which helps take care of beaches on which the group goes surf fishing. "They go and clean it again, and two days later, you have the same thing again. There's nothing you can do about it; you can't vacuum the ocean."

Coastal areas of New Jersey, New York and Connecticut are racing to remove untold tons of debris from waters hardest hit by the Oct. 29 storm before the summer swimming and boating seasons begin — two of the main reasons people flock there each year and the underpinning of the region's multibillion-dollar tourist industry.

The sunken debris presents an urgent safety issue. Swimmers could cut themselves on submerged junk, step on one of thousands of boardwalk nails ripped loose, or suffer neck or spinal injuries diving into solid objects. Boats could hit debris, pitching their occupants overboard, or in severe cases, sinking.

The cleanup won't be easy, fast or cheap.

"The amount of debris that needs to be removed is mind-boggling," New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said, ticking off the statistics in his state: 1,400 vessels sunk, broken loose or destroyed during the storm.

In just one shore town alone, Mantoloking, 58 buildings were washed into Barnegat Bay, along with eight vehicles, and a staggering amount of sand carried from the ocean beaches into the bay.

"Everything you can imagine is sitting in our waterways," he said.

Barnegat Bay is likely to have some no-go zones in place for at least part of the spring and summer as cleanup work progresses. "Big Al" Wutkowski, a locally famous striped-bass fisherman who volunteers as the Barnegat Bay Guardian for the American Littoral Society environmental group, is worried about what still lurks beneath the waves.

"When people start putting their boats back in the water in April, I know they're going to start hitting stuff," he said. "It's impossible not to hit stuff. It's also a lot shallower in places now. A lot of the lagoons are filled in with sand. People can't get their boats in or out."

Florida-based contractor AshBritt Environmental removed 42 boats from New Jersey waterways in recent weeks. Others were corralled by the State Police, or by private salvage companies acting on behalf of owners.

Property owners are not being held financially responsible for debris that washed or blew off their property into waterways unless they hire a private company to retrieve a boat they plan to repair and keep, according to the state Department of Environmental Protection.

The state, which issue contracts last week for the water cleanup work, plans to seek full reimbursement from the Federal Emergency Management Agency as part of $60 billion in Sandy relief approved by Congress.

Much of the work will involve cranes atop barges that pluck the largest debris from the bottom. Divers could be used for smaller pieces. Once that's done, many waterways will need to be dredged, with the sand placed back on beaches.

The private owners of an amusement pier that collapsed in Seaside Heights, N.J., pitching the Jet Star roller coaster into the ocean, are working with insurers to devise a plan to dismantle the ride and get it out of the ocean.

Seaside Heights also plans to send teams of divers to scour the ocean bottom in popular swimming areas before letting people back into the water, fearing parts of the wooden pier, metal pieces from boardwalk rides and other debris still linger in the ocean. Cars from the pier's amusement rides were found on beaches as far as 8 miles away in the days after the storm.

The Polar Bear Plunge, in which swimmers briefly dash into and out of the frigid surf to raise money for charity, was moved this year from Seaside Heights to Long Branch, a beach 24 miles to the north where hidden debris wasn't a concern.

http://enviropoliticsblog.blogspot.com/2013/02/danger-below-what-sandy-sunk-forces-big.html

Dollar Bill
03-03-2013, 11:44 AM
Thanks for the post. Driving through Mantalokin for the first time yesterday I was thinking man all those missing houses must be in the bay in one form or another. It will be a nightmare boating in the bay this year. Sandy sucked!! :mad:

SaltLife1980
03-03-2013, 01:15 PM
Scary.. I guess when we go back in the water in 3 weeks we are going to have to go slow and make sure the channel we travel out is not filled in..

The last thing anyone needs is to hit something in the water after we just got slammed by Sandy with damage..

Chico
03-03-2013, 05:05 PM
In Port Charlotte/Punta Gorda a lot of the debris was marked with floats so that boaters would be warned and they would be easily identified/found when the clean up crews came by, some took over a year to clear up but at least they were located and marked.

Fish Stix
03-03-2013, 10:45 PM
Yeah, end of January we hit a roof or something. It was just under the surface. No damage was done though. But definately have to keep an extra eye out ...

SaltLife1980
03-04-2013, 12:15 AM
Yeah, end of January we hit a roof or something. It was just under the surface. No damage was done though. But definately have to keep an extra eye out ...


Glad no damage was done! that is the scary part.. Im sure you were traveling a known route and bumped into it.. Never know what is down there now esp since Sandy hit..

Reel Class
03-04-2013, 06:10 AM
Barnegat bay is an obstacle course. As the article said the bay is extremely shallow in spots, especially where the break throughs occurred.

flyersnfluke
03-04-2013, 09:32 AM
The morning after the storm I was in port monmouth and belford looking for storm pushed birds (there were lots of pomerine jaegers, which are normally well offshore, as well as other pelagic bird species). While scanning the bay there were numerous peaks of roofs floating around, likely just parts of roofs, but quite large none-the-less. I assume these were from houses lost from port monmouth up through union beach.

In speaking with a few of the workers from sandy hook, within one tide change after a cleanup there's hunks of debris back on the shore. Be careful out there when boating, and keep a keen eye out.

captmark
03-04-2013, 11:02 AM
Guys the upper part of the bay between Mantoloking and Herring Island is pretty much filled in with beach sand, you can not navigate a boat between markers #4 and #12, you may be able to walk across at low tide, but between the sand and the 1 house that is visabale its not passable. You can go the around the Island to the west, and we have not seen any real debris below the bridge, but we may soon. Go slow first few times out and be careful.

CaptJohn
03-05-2013, 03:54 PM
After spending the past 5 years in Baywood Marina and Hinckley Yacht Basin I have made the move to Crystal Point just for this reason. I was worried about the debris and getting to the manasquan inlet. Although the marina's on the river where hit, they don't seem as bad as the ones around Mantoloking.

Captain Rich
03-05-2013, 04:08 PM
Mark- Do you know anything about going from Wehrlen's (Metedeconk) out to the Canal ? Ran through end of November it was ok, just wondering if anyything changed for the worse ?--Thanks Rich

hammerin hank
03-08-2013, 03:30 PM
many of the channel markers are gone, especially the wooden stick jobs. navagating through mantoloking and bayhead was a slow go before sandy, and could take as long a s 50 minutes from Normandy to the mansaquan inlet. I wonder how the canal faired? GO SLOW and be safe,,, we'll all need spoters for the first few trips I'm sure,

Gerry Zagorski
03-08-2013, 06:09 PM
Anyone know what is going on down by Lanoka Harbor. Supposed to sea trial a boat there next Saturday.

Thanks guys!!

Foul Hook
03-09-2013, 04:12 PM
I spoke to a "Bait Guy" I know today who works the bay.He told me he knows of 4 people that have struck submerged items in the bay. 1 was a sunken boat ,1 was a vehicle. Also talked to a bulk header buddy he says its a little dicey out there. I'm afraid we may see and hear of a lot of stories about these types of things as the boating season gets going a lot

njdiver
03-10-2013, 03:05 PM
Sandy Waterway Debris Resources

http://www.state.nj.us/dep/special/hurricane-sandy/wwdebris.htm

http://library.constantcontact.com/downl...oval_Update.pdf

http://www.nj.gov/dep/special/hurricane-sandy/docs/waterway-debris-mgt-zones.pdf

http://www.fema.gov/public-assistance-9500-series-policy-publications/95235-debris-removal-waterways

http://www.mtanj.org/sandy

Please provide as much information as possible including location of debris, latitude and longitude. Please also indicate if the debris and/or shoaling is mild, moderate or severe. Please email this information to info@mtanj.org ASAP.

reefsquater
03-10-2013, 05:43 PM
Neighbor was out today, "bumped a few things, dinged a prop in the lagoon."

I hope all went well!

SaltLife1980
03-10-2013, 10:22 PM
Neighbor was out today, "bumped a few things, dinged a prop in the lagoon."

I hope all went well!


Dont like the sound of that.. Scary.. Very Scary! Esp since everyone is either ready or about to be, going in the water in search of the illusive Striped Bass

Captain Rich
03-11-2013, 09:07 AM
Neighbor was out today, "bumped a few things, dinged a prop in the lagoon."

I hope all went well!


Where ??

dfish28
03-11-2013, 09:32 AM
This wasn't submerged, but it was one hell of a piece we saw in November heading out black fishing , notified the coasties on that one. It was off belmar...

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o588/dfish28/A50D1CEF-9911-49A7-A8AA-B19328DA455F-6279-00000A1C75A4DB6D_zps7a5be4ba.jpg

MrAC1980
03-11-2013, 10:31 AM
A month after the storm, we hit a 2"x12"x"10' board. Must have been part of someone's dock or bulkhead. We pulled it out of the water and took it home, still had all the screw heads sticking out! Heard the main part of Barnegat Bay by Oyster Creek and Double Creek and twds the Lighthouse were okay... But many of the cuts some of us know moved, so first times out, don't just run by gps track lines.

hammerin hank
03-12-2013, 06:53 AM
I was down at the Lacey Elks the other day and that area looks good, compared to the Toms River north to Manasquan. I know Gary Z. was to sea trial a boat in that area. I have a buddy that keeps his boat at the Elks, and the ride to the Barnaget inlet is slow on a normal day. You must stay in the channel. Hopefully the channel marking police are re-marking areas without permanent buoys.

reefsquater
03-12-2013, 07:04 AM
Our lagoon in Bayville.
Also, i never really thought about it but.....Did you know that those composite decks sink? A friend of mine said he has a bunch of trek type decking in his lagoon.

There has to be a ton of it out there

Gerry Zagorski
03-12-2013, 08:26 AM
I was down at the Lacey Elks the other day and that area looks good, compared to the Toms River north to Manasquan. I know Gary Z. was to sea trial a boat in that area. I have a buddy that keeps his boat at the Elks, and the ride to the Barnaget inlet is slow on a normal day. You must stay in the channel. Hopefully the channel marking police are re-marking areas without permanent buoys.

Thanks Hank.. I've been through that inlet a few times in good conditions and I know there is a lot of zig zagging going from bay side into the inlet itself because of how the sand thends to shoal in that area. I have to believe the storm shifted the sands around some and wonder if the markers in that area are still accurate. Wondering if somone knows anyone who has run the inlet recently.

Papasown
03-12-2013, 08:58 AM
I will be starting all new GPS lines this year, and following them back out of skinny water, and in channels. I can avoid going into Barnegat Bay, but all our waterways are compromised. I live near the Manasquan River Club above the RT70 Bridge, and realized after taking photos of the marina immediately after the storm, that we would be in for a challenge this boating season. The eastern end of the marina was swept clean as a ball field with the storm. Although the management did an excellent job of cleaning up the boats and debris, a lot of equipment like tables and chairs, BBQ's, screen houses, dock boxes, etc. were all swept into the water. This kind of debris is lodged into the bottom, or shifting all over the river. I pull in timbers, plywood, and all kinds of floating stuff every few days off my shoreline.
What I will be doing as I boat/fish this year is be prepared with a laundry detergent bottle or other strong plastic float, marked DANGER, anchored with a brick or some rocks in a small bag to mark hazards along the way. When I drop it in, I will advise the Coast Guard and DEP as to the GPS coordinates. Please help me to help each other, and alert authority as to the locations of these diansours in the water. Thank you, and be safe out there.............Papa

Billfish715
03-12-2013, 11:00 PM
http://brick.patch.com/articles/from-the-depths-benz-hauled-from-bay-bottom-in-brick#photo-13638555

Add this to the thread about the underwater debris and you'll see what people are talking about. If you thought flounder fishing in that area was falling off in recent years, the silt will probably change things even more.

reefsquater
03-13-2013, 05:37 AM
Here is one from app.com about the clean up, positive spin.

http://www.app.com/article/20130312/NJNEWS10/303120132/Boatloads-debris-pulled-out-Barnegat-Bay-near-marinas

thefishermanmechanic
03-13-2013, 09:08 AM
Looks like a $500.00 worth of jigs season!

DaveM252
03-13-2013, 09:19 AM
Barnegat Bay clean up!
http://www.app.com/article/20130312/NJNEWS10/303120132/Boatloads-debris-pulled-out-Barnegat-Bay-near-marinas