Striper advice

[shrimpman steve]

I just made plans to have some work done to the dirty shrimp. Going to try and have her in the water before April first. Anyone no what ramps in the back of the raritan will be open. Going to be my first time in my boat trying for striped ones, any advice? Do peeps start off clamming in the back or is it shad bodies? Any and all advice welcomed.

Would also take advice for finding some flounder:)

Can't wait to catch em on my own boat

[Art Berkman]

Steve check your pm ;)

[Gerry Zagorski]

One word of advice for you.......TENNIS :D

In the Raritan Bay in the early spring your best bet is bait. Clams or Sandworms. I like to drift the Sandworms, with clams I usually anchor, but if the drift isn't too fast you can drift them as well.

Remember, the water is cold and the fish are lazy so shallow and slow are great rules of thumb. Best spots are going to be the mud flats from Keyport and west fairly close to the beach.

One thing you need to watch, especially in the shallows is for any sort of debris that has settled on to the bottom from Sandy... I would imagine given all the damage in places like Keyport, Keansburg and Cliffwood beach there is bound to be some stuff in the water so I would take it slow and be very cautious.

Make sure you lay some GPS tracks on your way out and if you don't hit anything, follow them back in.

[Gerry Zagorski]

Dug an article I wrote out on this very subject



The “Clamberto”

First thing you will want to do is get yourself some frozenclam bellies and a dozen live clams for every hour you'll be fishing. Thefrozen clam bellies come in 2 or 5-gallon buckets. I like to use the 2 gallonones since they are easier to handle and if you don’t use all you bring you canrefreeze them. .



Now you need to find a spot to anchor up. Best spots to doThe Clamberto in the early spring are in back bays with warm mud flats andshallower water. Once again you want a moving tide and the wind and tiderunning in the same direction. I rarely do the Clamberto in the early spring inmore then 10 - 15 feet of water. This water warms up first and will put theStripers on the feed.

Once your set up on anchor next thing you want to do is takethe top off the bucket and put the entire bucket into a chum bag or a fishingnet tied at the top. Tie a line to the chum bag or fishing net and throw itover the side. Tighten up the line so the motion of the boat makes the bucketbob in and out of the water, which helps deploy the chum.



Now that you have a nice Clam chum slick started shuckyourself a fresh clam and cast it out into your slick. An important notehere... The snotty part of the clam is really what the Stripers are after sowhen you do The Clamberto make sure you get the entire contents of the clam onyour hook. Run the hook through the foot of the clam several times and then runit through the snot. The rig I like to use consists of a barrel swivel, sinkerslide, 30 pound leader material and a 4 or 5/0 bait keeper hook. Take the linecoming from your pole and thread it through the sinker slide and tie it to yourbarrel swivel. Tie a 4-foot piece of leader material to the other end of thebarrel swivel and tie your hook on the other end of the leader. Attach a sinkerto the sinker slide, run the hook through the firm part of the clam severaltimes. As far as how much weight to use a lot depends on how fast the tide ismoving and where in the water column the fish are biting best. I will fish one polewith a weight just heavy enough to hold bottom and another pole with enoughweight to keep the bait up in the middle of the water column. Once I see whichis producing best I will switch the other pole over.



Once I have the lines in the water I set my conventionalreel in free spool with the clicker on. I then adjust the line out tension justenough to keep line from coming off the reel yet give the fish some line if hepicks up the bait and decides to run. I usually put my pole in the holder whiledoing The Clamberto and watch the tip for a strike.



Before the Striper takes the bait you'll typically see thetip pulse a few times and then hear the clicker scream. First thing to do whenyou see the tip pulse or the clicker go off pick up the pole, which is still infree spool, point it towards the fish and engage the reel. Once you feel somepressure set the hook with a strong sweeping upward motion. If you choose touse circle hooks then don’t set the hook. Just engage the reel let your linecome tight and the fish should hook itself.



Drifting Worms



Notice I said drifting since worm fishing is not typicallydone at anchor…. Once again, early in the spring try to find a nice dark muddybottom to set your drift over… You also want to be drifting where the wind andtide are in the same direction… The rig I like to use consists of a barrelswivel, sinker slide, 30 pound leader material and a 4 or 5/0 bait keeper hook.Take the line coming from your pole and thread it through the sinker slide andtie it to your barrel swivel. Tie a 4-foot piece of leader material to theother end of the barrel swivel and tie your hook on the other end of theleader. Attach a sinker to the sinker slide. As far as weight use just enoughto keep your sinker bouncing along the bottom as you drift. Thread the head of the worm on to your hookand push it up to the barbs of the bait keeper hook. Set it out and let enoughline out so it bounces along the bottom… Take your convention reel, put theclicker on and with the reel in free spool and adjust your line out tensionjust tight enough to keep line coming off the reel as you drift. Once you hearthe clicker go off detect or detect a strike or a pick up while watching yourpole tip set the hook quickly…

[SaltLife1980]

Start off clamming.. Shuck your own so you can keep the shells to break over the side.. Maybe a chum bag if you want.. Find a spot and post up.. If you are are chumming heavy the flounder will be around if they are there.. so bring an extra rod with a flounder rig on it and drop it off the side..

Good luck Steve.. Im sure we will see you out there.. stop by and say hi

[Gerry Zagorski]

Here is some info on Flounder too.... http://www.njfishing.com/NJ_Flounder_Fishing.php

[hartattack]

Kepyport municipal ramp is open (still a bitch though). . .

Then straight shot across the bay to Round Shoal (early in season, after that Romer Shoals). Then like mentioned previously - clams, chum, crack the shells. Flounder rig deadsticked, if desired. (And listen to advice from Artie - he's the Rockfish Smartie)

Just keep in mind that Striper Season in NY starts MAY FIRST !! I'll see'ya out there !!

[Art Berkman]

NY waters open up on 4/15 :)

[Capt Sal]

NY waters open up on 4/15 :)
Exactly!!Know where the line is.Fishing the back bay in early season can be a challenge.

[shrimpman steve]

All good stuff. Thanks for the advice. Can't wait to get em on the D. Shrimp!

I spoke to cancun Pete today. He said not yet but soon. He will have fresh bait when the striped ones are ready.

[shrimpman steve]

One word of advice for you.......TENNIS


Hey, that's my line:D

[Gerry Zagorski]

Yes and I finally had an opportunity to play it back on you :rolleyes:

When you are ready for your first trip in the back, call me and I will give your more 411.

[chrislars]

Shuck your own so you can keep the shells to break over the side..

Just curious why you would want to do this? Not trying to be a wisea$$, just curious and always learning! Thanks!

[frugalfisherman]

Find someone on the board who knows what he's doing and take them with you. I would volenteer but I don't know what I'm doing.

[Tuna Tales]

Steve:

If you can...please join us on March 28th

Hi-Mar Striper Club "Striper Night"

www.hi-mar.com


Best,

Joe T.

[SaltyAngler]

Just curious why you would want to do this? Not trying to be a wisea$$, just curious and always learning! Thanks!

We do the same thing...more leftover bits to create a larger slick.

[bulletbob]

Bayshore early spring stripers are easy to catch, IF you are fishing where they happen to be.. You should have no problem at Keansburg, Union Beach, Leonardo, or further east at Cliffwood to Keyport... We used to catch them a short cast off the beach when I lived in Union Beach in the 80's.. back then stripers were really scarce, but they were always on the bayshore beaches in early spring.. Even in the worst years when ocean caught stripers were very hard to find.
No need to search for channels, bunker pods, or big stacks of suspended fish until later when the big bass start crashing bunker, then
its run and gun with snagged bunker, or a very fresh bunker head...

Early spring If you fish say 100 yards off the shore in the areas mentioned, perhaps 15 FOW,there are usually always stripers and flounders to be had.. I would use some broken up clams or or even fresh broken mussels tossed wround the boat , and hook bait of sandworms, or a ball of clam snot for schoolies, which will be the majority of the stripers you catch early on.. a LOT of bass are caught every year by guys shore fishing these areas with bait... If you have a boat and fish the same areas, you will most certainly find them.. Maybe not every trip out, but the bass will be there more often than not... As always, you have a much better chance of more and bigger bass, and less chance of small flounder tearing your buck each sandworms off the hook if you fish night tides.. Guys clean up some nights on worms right off shore.
Keep your eye on the reports.. I bet the first bass have already been dragged up on the sand.. If not, it will happen this weekend, or any day shortly thereafter.......

[SaltLife1980]

Just curious why you would want to do this? Not trying to be a wisea$$, just curious and always learning! Thanks!


Its like chumming.. Increase the chum slick.. and then u can save a few bucks on chum.. Only have to buy one bag and use the shells... works good

[bulletbob]

btw, my post related to the bayshore spring fishery from a historical and long term perspective... I have NO idea what changes Sandy may have wrought, and perhaps the near shore environment has been so drastically altered, that my take on the subject is no longer relevant... I hope not... bob

[jerseyhunter]

Just curious why you would want to do this?
When we were going through 10 bags of clams every other day we used to dump them in the same spot, sort of create your own little clam bed.

[SaltLife1980]

Get a cast net to steve.. once thows fish are all over the bunker you can live line for some beasts!

[makosnax]

Just curious why you would want to do this? Not trying to be a wisea$$, just curious and always learning! Thanks!
It gives the staten island crew something to do when they cant catch fish. Clam baseball! Fugettaboutit!