Something you might want to read

[ColdFoot]

http://oceana.org/en/blog/2013/02/oceana-ceo-a-shocking-report-on-your-seafood

[Chico]

Quite obvious to those of us who eat our own catch. There was a big bust here in S Fla. a while back. Most of the grouper was swaii, some kinda Vietnamese catfish!! $18. a lb VS $4. a lb. Hard to believe they could pass king mac as grouper, but anything is possible. I know that no one here sells Amberjack that is labeled amberjack, so I am not sure what they do with the tons of AJ the commercials are catching?! Even buying them whole does not eliminate all fraud. Many fisheries, right on the water at the marinas IMPORT a lot of the fish they are selling. People think they are getting local fresh fish, when in fact it is shipped in from overseas, and not all that fresh.

[1captainron]

And why do we "IMPORT" rather than live off what we catch in the U.S.?Because most of the fishermen have been forced out of business from the BS regs and controls that are put in place in this country. A sustainable fishery my ASS. Catch shares and Big Brother now want there cut of the pie. Yes, let's have the Government take care of us....BS.

Think about people who go to the market thinking they just bought a piece of Grouper for $18 a pound, turns out to be Blackfish cause Blackfish are somewhat in the grouper family or the guy who thinks Shit eating talapia, raised in tanks are a delicasy because it's backed by the Gordens fisherman!!! LOL

Farm raise Salmon on Sale for $15 a pound!! Eat enough of that you either Shit your pants or your skin turns pink.....Guess I better leave it at that.

[Ol Pedro]

[QUOTE=1captainron]And why do we "IMPORT" rather than live off what we catch in the U.S.?Because most of the fishermen have been forced out of business from the BS regs and controls that are put in place in this country. A sustainable fishery my ASS. Catch shares and Big Brother now want there cut of the pie. Yes, let's have the Government take care of us....BS.

Capt. Ron , good to see you back on line . Didn't some of us go to DC to try and stop this very thing ? Our Goverment should let us take care of our selves. It's getting so bad that restaurants along the border in Mexico have to buy their fish in America because the Mexican Commercial fleet gets better prices selling to American Importers . Asian Fish/Shrimp farms put more and more American Fishermen out of work every day . I won't anything that's not wild caught or I have caught myself . Before long there will be no Watermen left . We'll be eating fish flavored Tofu or shaped Big eye Pollock mush and watching fish on TV .

[RnK]

We basically only eat what we catch. We eat fish about 4x a week, so that "forces" us to fish a lot. Exceptions are we will buy shrimp, smoked whiting which we luv for lunch and rarely salmon and tuna - we're real good at throwing a lot of money at trying to catch tuna with very little success. :(

I really don't get talapia or swai - have tasted it, know it's very cheap, but has no taste nor texture.

[thefishermanmechanic]

I spoke to a mate on a sponser boat a few years back and some of the asain mongers wanted large SB as they would pass it off as Chilean seabass! At $20 a pound!

[seazu]

And why do we "IMPORT" rather than live off what we catch in the U.S.?Because most of the fishermen have been forced out of business from the BS regs and controls that are put in place in this country. A sustainable fishery my ASS. Catch shares and Big Brother now want there cut of the pie. Yes, let's have the Government take care of us....BS.

Think about people who go to the market thinking they just bought a piece of Grouper for $18 a pound, turns out to be Blackfish cause Blackfish are somewhat in the grouper family or the guy who thinks Shit eating talapia, raised in tanks are a delicasy because it's backed by the Gordens fisherman!!! LOL

Farm raise Salmon on Sale for $15 a pound!! Eat enough of that you either Shit your pants or your skin turns pink.....Guess I better leave it at that.
YOU GO CAPT RON, WELCOME HOME:D

[PaulNreel]

http://www.njfishing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56462

Posted this a while back. Beware of sushi tuna....

[stevelikes2fish]

I wouldn't purchase or eat anything from overseas! Worse one is the shrimp that is consumed by the billions here in the states, all imported from that fifthy freakin Vietnam, whose own government warns their people not to drink the water without boiling it, yet the billions and billions of shrimp sold throughout this country in the costcos, shoprites, etc, are packed in that filthy frozen tap water laden with bacteria and made into ice, then shipped off to this country. Japan actually turns back millions of pounds of shrimp from Vietnam because of this very issue. Yet the FDA only samples 2.7 percent of all that crap imported from that garbage laden landfill of a country.
And as far as the rest of the shit coming in from overseas, tilapia, chilean sea bass...........please, don't get me started. I rather eat out of a dumpster. People need to wake up...........Yes, I eat everything I catch. I know where it came from.

[fishguy]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the demand for seafood in the US far too great to be met by domestic catches? I think I remember reading that WAY over 1/2 of what we consume is imported. That said, we need to address this problem of un inspected seafood and false labeling.

[fishguy]

...and not for nothing, after eating (legal) bluefin right off the boat I have yet to order/buy tuna of any kind since. That stuff is the food of the gods so its no wonder they're being fished so hard.

[SaltLife1980]

And why do we "IMPORT" rather than live off what we catch in the U.S.?Because most of the fishermen have been forced out of business from the BS regs and controls that are put in place in this country. A sustainable fishery my ASS. Catch shares and Big Brother now want there cut of the pie. Yes, let's have the Government take care of us....BS.

Think about people who go to the market thinking they just bought a piece of Grouper for $18 a pound, turns out to be Blackfish cause Blackfish are somewhat in the grouper family or the guy who thinks Shit eating talapia, raised in tanks are a delicasy because it's backed by the Gordens fisherman!!! LOL

Farm raise Salmon on Sale for $15 a pound!! Eat enough of that you either Shit your pants or your skin turns pink.....Guess I better leave it at that.


You hit the nail in the head Capt Ron.. Well put!

[GDubya07]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the demand for seafood in the US far too great to be met by domestic catches? I think I remember reading that WAY over 1/2 of what we consume is imported. That said, we need to address this problem of un inspected seafood and false labeling.

I dont know about that one - that is what the government tells us. They also tell us we overfish. It comes down to money , political lobbyist and foriegn interests. America for Sale to the highest bidder.The rules are made for big businesses and corporations - Not us - look at catch shares -

I am with Captain Ron on this

Gdubs- JMHO - :cool:

[MrAC1980]

This is another reason why I only eat fish I catch... Except for sushi and Chilean Seabass cause Capt Ron hasn't figured a way to catch those locally yet! :D

[Fishguts]

And why do we "IMPORT" rather than live off what we catch in the U.S.?Because most of the fishermen have been forced out of business from the BS regs and controls that are put in place in this country. A sustainable fishery my ASS. Catch shares and Big Brother now want there cut of the pie. Yes, let's have the Government take care of us....BS.

Think about people who go to the market thinking they just bought a piece of Grouper for $18 a pound, turns out to be Blackfish cause Blackfish are somewhat in the grouper family or the guy who thinks Shit eating talapia, raised in tanks are a delicasy because it's backed by the Gordens fisherman!!! LOL

Farm raise Salmon on Sale for $15 a pound!! Eat enough of that you either Shit your pants or your skin turns pink.....Guess I better leave it at that.

Great points Capt Ron !!!!!! I think you nailed it. If only the government would let all those hard working commercial fisherman expand and increase their harvest they could provide the whole country with the bounty of our domestic seafood. If only the oppressive government would let the fish pots be placed where ever the fisherman wanted and the dragger fleet doubled in size with much larger quotas they could feed this country. That you for leading the railing cry to get the government out of the fish management business and let the commercial fisherman get back to doing what they do best......... And that catching massive amounts of fresh fish. I will assume that most fisherman on this site will be totally agreeing with your point of view. Great to see you posting again and I hope you have a wonderful and prosperous upcoming season.

[Fishguts]

You hit the nail in the head Capt Ron.. Well put!

You sir are another well informed fisherman and I think it is great you are showing support for Capt Ron's post. Please help get the word out that the Government and their restrictions are stopping commercial fisherman from unrestricted harvest . I myself do not know if the should havest as much as they would want or use what ever gear during year round season . Maybe you sir could start the rallying cry of how us rec fisherman could take shorter seasons and lower quotas in order to better help the commercial sector provide all the needed domestic product. Maybe some one could have Tee shirts made with this printed on them
"You want fresh seafood"front
"We need more pots on the reefs"back
Or
"thank a dragger and his huge net for your dinner"

[fishguy]

I poked around and found some info stating that 91% of all seafood consumed in the US is imported. :eek:

Hard to believe but then think of all the landlubbers that don't live near the ocean and have no clue what truly fresh fish is. All those millions of shrimp cocktails ain't all coming from the Gulf.

Whatya think, Ron? Can we produce that domestically in a sustainable way?

I'm not so sure.

[Chrisk]

March in DC all you want but a centralized goverment is unresponcive to local issues. Here in Essex county people could care less about fishing let alone a beurocrat in DC.