Why Catch Shares Are Bad (spare us the Obama bashing...)

[fishguy]

...because it's not a Democrats pet project. In fact, it has a distinctly Republican "Free Market" feel to it. Monetize the planet, profits over people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErYJNgECjyA&feature=relmfu

[shrimpman steve]

...because it's not a Democrats pet project. In fact, it has a distinctly Republican "Free Market" feel to it. Monetize the planet, profits over people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErYJNgECjyA&feature=relmfu


democrat talking points

[fishguy]

***face to palm***

Talking points? Good grief.

The "re-distribution" of wealth, in this case the natural resource of fish, from the public to the private sector.

Did you watch the video?

[Gerry Zagorski]

I think most recreational organizations are not in support of catch shares because it takes a resource that is here naturally and monitizes it. That in turn makes the right to fish for them go to the highest bidder which I take issue with.

1) Why should the goverment or any entity charge anyone anything to fish for what is a natural public resource? What next, start charging us for air??

2) I don't like the fact that some company with gobs of money can buy up all the catch shares and take out the little guy? Unfair and it happens what do you think is going to happen to the price of that fish when they are the only game in town?

[fishguy]

Well said, Gerry. You get it.

[shrimpman steve]

I get it. I dont like the idea of catch shares. but the comment that it has a rep. feel I think is off base.

republicans are for LESS government and regulation, if anything it has a demo. feel (in my opinion). One thing we agree on is that we both don't like it.

[fishguy]

I get it. I dont like the idea of catch shares. but the comment that it has a rep. feel I think is off base.

republicans are for LESS government and regulation, if anything it has a demo. feel (in my opinion). One thing we agree on is that we both don't like it.

Yes, we agree that it is bad and that is good. However, characterizing the Repubs as being against monetizing a resource and letting the so called "free market" take its course is ridiculous. They live for that sh*t. They think that's the answer to everything. Forget the regulations, let nature take its course!

Well, we tried that in the financial markets and I don't need to remind anyone what happened in 2008 (before our current President took office, I might add).

It would be a total disaster for our fisheries and if they implement catch shares across the board what next? Privatize fishing licences in corporate held Marine Protected Areas? Hey, that's GOP boilerplate "free markets". Whatever the market will bear and that ain't good for us.

[tautog]

Well you got your agenda across.:D You can take backhanded jabs at the Bush administration but nothing can be said about our current President. I was never very supportive of President Bush, but I must admit I am feeling a bit sorry for him. The Democratic candidate in 2032 will still be blaming him for something. :eek:

[fishguy]

Well you got your agenda across.:D You can take backhanded jabs at the Bush administration but nothing can be said about our current President. I was never very supportive of President Bush, but I must admit I am feeling a bit sorry for him. The Democratic candidate in 2032 will still be blaming him for something. :eek:

I won't defend Obama, he has been a chump most of the time. I just don't blame him for everything. That being said I think Mitt probably likes the concept of catch shares. Seems right up his alley.

No backhands when it comes to Bush, and zero sympathy. Here is a forehand for the record. Iraq. There is a trillion, with a T, a trillion dollars down the crapper and for what? Are we better off now? Safer? Is oil cheaper? Do we have fewer or more enemies as a result? Bush and his lying ass gang should be in jail for high treason for that mess. "Miss me yet?" Nope. Sure don't.

[tautog]

Election Day 2008, average gas price was $1.82 a gallon. Sure as hell won't be within a buck fifty of that election day 2012. More than a trillion down the drain in stimulus and loans to companies that pissed the money away. As for catch shares, one name Obama Appointee, Jane Lubchenko, explains it all. Radical environmentalist, PEW lobbyist, catch share enthusiast. Only good thing as she created bipartisan agreement...that she should be removed from her job.

[GDubya07]

Jerry couldnt agree with you more

Shrimp and Tautog x 2 for me

Fish- this is Obama's plan and he brought in Lubencheko with her catch shares that were employed in Mass. - How is it working out for them

Regardless a Republican or Dem. feel - Well guess what I feel it just sucks regardless of what party is doing it - forcing it down our collective throats wether we are republican or democrat - blame who-ever you want but it is coming

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[Gerry Zagorski]

I think we can all agree that politics aside, catch shares are not in our best interests.

Go Mitt ;)

[fishguy]

Election Day 2008, average gas price was $1.82 a gallon. Sure as hell won't be within a buck fifty of that election day 2012. More than a trillion down the drain in stimulus and loans to companies that pissed the money away. As for catch shares, one name Obama Appointee, Jane Lubchenko, explains it all. Radical environmentalist, PEW lobbyist, catch share enthusiast. Only good thing as she created bipartisan agreement...that she should be removed from her job.

Cheap gas on election day, hmmm. Very convenient that you forgot to mention that it hit an all time high of $4.11 gal. July the same year. Maybe the Bushies and ExxonMobil made enough already?

[tautog]

It hit a high of $4.11 and a low of $1.32 that year. Average those out and we get $2.72, which is almost a buck less than this years average so far. Jane brought Scott Brown and Barney Frank together on an issue, her being fired. Maybe she can go to Congress and bring the spirit of bi-partisanship back, namely that she is incompetent and should be fired.

[hammer4reel]

you would think before guys made comments on catch shares they would actually do some research on it.
catch shares was started By the BUSH administration , and continued to be spearheaded by the current administration.
it has NOTHING to do with party lines

its all about GOVERNMENT GREED.
and BOTH parties are involved.

there is alot of info online if you do minamel reseaerch.

Best quote was when George Bush was asked how recreational fisherman would be included he said recreational fisherman will fish even if allowed to keep nothing just because they love to fish.

and felt it would not hurt the recreational industry at all


talk about a blind path