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jigman90
09-18-2012, 12:55 PM
Fished Sunday evening and caught 2 smallies one good one about 3-4 lbs fishing slow, for the most part tons of shad fingerlings!
Fished last night with out a bite thought it might pick up with the upcoming storm today but no good not a bite tons of shad fingerlings!
the scarey point of the last couple of nights is no smallies even busting on the shad! dont know if there is so many shad that the smallies arent chasing them or our smallie population is just down that bad! the fishing has gotten so bad this year and the smallie #;s have decreased very bad in our strech of the river since a high in 2004
Our River needs help from either NJF@G OR PA. FISH COMMISSON every time i talk to them they tell me there is no problems well if you live on the river and fish like i do you know there is problems!
well very soon it wouldnt be my problem as im moving south as soon as the house is sold!
Anyone want to buy a house along the big D contact me!
bigfishy
09-18-2012, 03:28 PM
You may be 100% rite abot the lower populations....Not sure because i don't know your section of river....You have to remember that these are native fish that adapt to every and any change to their enviroment...That being said i would lean more towards, the fish in your section have most likely relocated to suit their needs.( whatever that may be- water temps,water quality, or more than likely , the need for specific food items...) Crayfish make up a huge percentage of the smallmouths diet, as well as many other insects and crustations....But the quality sized fish, 2-6 lbers need a healthy supply of every size crayfish....Not sure just my 2 cents:)
Its not my handle on this site, but on others its smouthaddict...
To say the least i am a student of the smallmouth....I have been a flyfisherman, mainly for native trout, for about 25 yrs....In my strong opinion,river smallmouth bass can be just as spooky and elusive as your most educated wild trout....They can be very aggressive and at times easy, but they can also be river ghosts....especially on smaller waters...
Skunk City
09-18-2012, 04:31 PM
Fished Sunday evening and caught 2 smallies one good one about 3-4 lbs fishing slow, for the most part tons of shad fingerlings!
Fished last night with out a bite thought it might pick up with the upcoming storm today but no good not a bite tons of shad fingerlings!
the scarey point of the last couple of nights is no smallies even busting on the shad! dont know if there is so many shad that the smallies arent chasing them or our smallie population is just down that bad! the fishing has gotten so bad this year and the smallie #;s have decreased very bad in our strech of the river since a high in 2004
Our River needs help from either NJF@G OR PA. FISH COMMISSON every time i talk to them they tell me there is no problems well if you live on the river and fish like i do you know there is problems!
well very soon it wouldnt be my problem as im moving south as soon as the house is sold!
Anyone want to buy a house along the big D contact me!
Interesting post Jigman...
What kind of lures/bait were you throwing at them?
beezer
09-18-2012, 05:42 PM
I'm up by Shohola and we've been catching them like crazy.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/beezer2/003-4.jpg
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tycomps
09-18-2012, 07:40 PM
that an english black lab? I've got a five year old, swear she's part fish!
FASTEDDIE29
09-19-2012, 07:52 AM
Tons of Smallies in the river. They get alot of pressure. I personally target them late fall and february march. So many spots, runs, riffles and eddy's on the Big D. Like stated above the fish have to adapt to constant changes in the river. This river happens to change a few times a year, every time it floods. Most guys that dedicate there fishing day to Smallies on the Big d start at like 4 am during the dog days of summer. I prefer midday into the evening on a blustery fall day. TIGHT LINES!!!
Eskimo
09-19-2012, 01:28 PM
the scarey point of the last couple of nights is no smallies even busting on the shad! dont know if there is so many shad that the smallies arent chasing them or our smallie population is just down that bad! the fishing has gotten so bad this year and the smallie #;s have decreased very bad in our strech of the river since a high in 2004
The Columnaris Virus took a bite chunk out of the Smallmouth Bass population.
Here's a newspaper article about it if you want to read about it:
http://www.nj.com/times-sports/index.ssf/2011/09/virus_is_infecting_the_smallmo.html
I think the people saying that there isn't a problem with the Smallmouth population just don't remember how good it used to be on the river.
I used to fish the section up by the Delaware Water Gap every weekend, but don't much anymore because of the drop in the population of Smallmouth Bass over 8 or 9 inches.
I fished the area of the Delaware around Poxono boat launch Saturday. Again, all small bass. The only big Smallmouth Bass I saw all day was at the end of a stringer. Some Russian guys fishing from an inflatable Sea Eagle raft-type thing with a outboard motor were taking a relatively big one home along with EVERY other fish they caught that day. :rolleyes:
jigman90
09-20-2012, 12:39 AM
You may be 100% rite abot the lower populations....Not sure because i don't know your section of river....You have to remember that these are native fish that adapt to every and any change to their enviroment...That being said i would lean more towards, the fish in your section have most likely relocated to suit their needs.( whatever that may be- water temps,water quality, or more than likely , the need for specific food items...) Crayfish make up a huge percentage of the smallmouths diet, as well as many other insects and crustations....But the quality sized fish, 2-6 lbers need a healthy supply of every size crayfish....Not sure just my 2 cents:)
Its not my handle on this site, but on others its smouthaddict...
To say the least i am a student of the smallmouth....I have been a flyfisherman, mainly for native trout, for about 25 yrs....In my strong opinion,river smallmouth bass can be just as spooky and elusive as your most educated wild trout....They can be very aggressive and at times easy, but they can also be river ghosts....especially on smaller waters...
You are right the crayfish and helligermites are all but gone!
the Fall Fish, Yellow Perch, Largemouth Bass are gone!!
Rockbass and Sunfish are very low in amounts
at our dock in the 1990's you could always catch sunnies and rockbass and there were places were you always caught them! there GONE I do a lot of snorkling in the river in the summer and the total amount of fish are so low its amazing!!
my stretch of the river I fish is from below Portland Pa. to just above Belevedere NJ
I fished this section of the river heavy since 1989 and have fished the big D since the 1970's so I know some of the river and its in big trouble! and ive heard story's from my father-in -law about what a walleye fishery it once was but i never experinced it!
jigman90
09-20-2012, 12:46 AM
The Columnaris Virus took a bite chunk out of the Smallmouth Bass population.
Here's a newspaper article about it if you want to read about it:
http://www.nj.com/times-sports/index.ssf/2011/09/virus_is_infecting_the_smallmo.html
I think the people saying that there isn't a problem with the Smallmouth population just don't remember how good it used to be on the river.
I used to fish the section up by the Delaware Water Gap every weekend, but don't much anymore because of the drop in the population of Smallmouth Bass over 8 or 9 inches.
I fished the area of the Delaware around Poxono boat launch Saturday. Again, all small bass. The only big Smallmouth Bass I saw all day was at the end of a stringer. Some Russian guys fishing from an inflatable Sea Eagle raft-type thing with a outboard motor were taking a relatively big one home along with EVERY other fish they caught that day. :rolleyes:
wow everyone who fishes the Big D should read JB caspers report wow very informative maybe this is what has happened to the smallies but were have all the other fish gone?
beezer
09-20-2012, 10:37 AM
I fish the Delaware around Shohola and above and I have noticed the SMB are smaller but still abundant.
But we catch lots of walleyes, rainbow and brown trout.
Skunk City
09-20-2012, 11:10 AM
You are right the crayfish and helligermites are all but gone!
the Fall Fish, Yellow Perch, Largemouth Bass are gone!!
Rockbass and Sunfish are very low in amounts
at our dock in the 1990's you could always catch sunnies and rockbass and there were places were you always caught them! there GONE I do a lot of snorkling in the river in the summer and the total amount of fish are so low its amazing!!
my stretch of the river I fish is from below Portland Pa. to just above Belevedere NJ
I fished this section of the river heavy since 1989 and have fished the big D since the 1970's so I know some of the river and its in big trouble! and ive heard story's from my father-in -law about what a walleye fishery it once was but i never experinced it!
There are a few guys who do really well with Walleye in the Delaware. FastEddie is one of them. He picked up a few last week, check the last few pages of reports.
As for the Walleye fishery in the river, the state stocks more there then anywhere else in the state. The numbers for 2012 obviously arent out yet, but in 2011, it received roughly 820,000 Walleye. States link here: http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/pdf/2012/htown_stocking_wall11.pdf
dboyd101
09-20-2012, 11:16 AM
that's quite a bit of fish.
FASTEDDIE29
09-20-2012, 12:49 PM
There are a few guys who do really well with Walleye in the Delaware. FastEddie is one of them. He picked up a few last week, check the last few pages of reports.
As for the Walleye fishery in the river, the state stocks more there then anywhere else in the state. The numbers for 2012 obviously arent out yet, but in 2011, it received roughly 650,000 Walleye. States link here: http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/pdf/2012/htown_stocking_wall11.pdf
Thanx for mentioning me Skunk City. Walleye are definately doing well on the river. I fished the river 6 times for eyes this year so far and went 5/6 on the WALLEYE. Only got skunked 1 time this year going for eyes. 3 trips had over 10 eyes per day and its not really the best time of year to fish for them yet. TIGHT LINES!!!
shucker
09-20-2012, 02:10 PM
When was that Big D skunking .....Oh yeah when I went:eek:
FASTEDDIE29
09-20-2012, 02:24 PM
When was that Big D skunking .....Oh yeah when I went:eek:
LOL. Shucker I didn't wana mention any names. Listen that entire day SUCKED. Can't catch everything all the time. Walleye can be picky, havnt been out there recently, but its definately go time for the eyes. Ill be back on the river next week if you wana join me buddy.
Wilson
09-20-2012, 02:29 PM
When was that Big D skunking .....Oh yeah when I went:eek:
X2
shucker
09-20-2012, 03:35 PM
Been chasin stripers at nite,I get out of work at 11pm on the rocks by 12 and home by 4am.
FASTEDDIE29
09-20-2012, 06:03 PM
As long as your catching something buddy, thats all that counts.
FASTEDDIE29
09-20-2012, 06:04 PM
X2
OOOOOOH, Mr Wilson chimed in. when do you want to catch WALLEYE youngster? Are you ready?
NoLimit
09-20-2012, 06:19 PM
They have had 3 or 4 major storms that have tore up the river in the past 10 years. That might have something to do with it.
Wilson
09-20-2012, 08:03 PM
OOOOOOH, Mr Wilson chimed in. when do you want to catch WALLEYE youngster? Are you ready?
I'm ready to be a youngster again...but I think Walleye catching is a more attainable task:D It's your call:eek:
shucker
09-20-2012, 08:26 PM
Hey wilson thats a nice self portrait in your avatar:D
AndyS
09-20-2012, 08:46 PM
Ask him the story of that. The avatar is actually a photo he took.
FASTEDDIE29
09-20-2012, 09:35 PM
I'm ready to be a youngster again...but I think Walleye catching is a more attainable task:D It's your call:eek:
Ill let ya deadstick some worms if you want to. You'll get em, oh yes you will.
Wilson
09-21-2012, 08:04 AM
Hey wilson thats a nice self portrait in your avatar:D
Wanna date?
FASTEDDIE29
09-21-2012, 05:53 PM
WOW, things are getting strange around here. Whatever floats your boat, CUPCAKES!!!
Wilson
09-22-2012, 09:08 AM
Ask him the story of that. The avatar is actually a photo he took.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k505/HackerHack/IMG_2548_zps28cce573.jpg
Andy and I ran into this guy taking his pet for a walk while fishing on the Passaic last year.:eek:
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