Talk about flawed numbers

[hammer4reel]

I recently tried to access the actual number of saltwater registered anglers in NJ .
after filling out the required forms and getting 1 phone call I was mailed the response today.

According to the numbers they claim to have 251,281,000 fisherman registered in NJ

we all know there is NO WAY there are over 251 MILLION fisherman here.

and some here think the powers to be are even dealing with real numbers when it comes to fish counts

PRETTY SAD
when there are only a little over 8 million people that live in NJ total


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[Captain Rich]

Too funny, too pitiful...:confused: totally amazing

[Sharkyispy]

WOW! Joey Murr, us PA guys are making up quite a difference!..Now that IS pathetic if they are showing those kind of numbers. So that's how those scientific numbers are achieved!?!?

[saltwaterguy21]

Now Imagin charging $15 a head....... YUCKKKKK

[VdubFishinJC]

the population of New Jersey is only like 8 million people..

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Life's A Beach]

the population of New Jersey is only like 8 million people..

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:


http://www.ask.com/web?q=population+of+new+jersey&askid=4cab6558-7749-4586-8200-cf21ea7d4b6a-0-us_mse&kv=sdb&dqi=population+of+new+jersey&qsrc=999&o=102294&l=dir

took the same time to bing this info that it took to post questioning the number

[VdubFishinJC]

almost 9 million people.. but yet 250 million have signed up.. lol

[captadamnj]

Someone added some extra zeroes when they gave you that info. The number registered is about 250 THOUSAND, NOT 250 MILLION.

[GregV]

comes to roughly 2.9 % of the population.

[PocketFisherman]

What is the percentage of the NJ population that does not have to register?

[broken bobber]

What is the percentage of the NJ population that does not have to register?

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D

[JIMMY L]

Someone added some extra zeroes when they gave you that info. The number registered is about 250 THOUSAND, NOT 250 MILLION.
And sadly ,of those 250000 ,approximately 400 donors to the SSFFF. Captain Adam may know the number of RFA members,im sure its disappointing. Of course its a helluva lot easier to bitch and moan to each other on this site and on the water than dig in and do something. We better wake up,its getting late!

[sportfishingusa]

And sadly ,of those 250000 ,approximately 400 donors to the SSFFF. Captain Adam may know the number of RFA members,im sure its disappointing. Of course its a helluva lot easier to bitch and moan to each other on this site and on the water than dig in and do something. We better wake up,its getting late!



what have they done? have you seen your bag limits go up and length requirements go down? please elaborate and show me the proof and i will show you the money...

[Flukinator]

what have they done? have you seen your bag limits go up and length requirements go down? please elaborate and show me the proof and i will show you the money...

I'll let them answer what they've done, but what exactly are they supposed to do with no money and little support? :confused: They're captains and fishermen themselves, and I do believe they are really looking out for our best interests. Sure as hell doing a lot more with what little they have than we are bitching on this site or at the tackle shop, or wherever. The biggest contributors I personally know to the SSFFF are captains and tackle stores. They bitch too, but they back it up. I think fishermen have a responsibility to do the same.

[hammer4reel]

Someone added some extra zeroes when they gave you that info. The number registered is about 250 THOUSAND, NOT 250 MILLION.


I agree, but my point was the number came back on the OPRA form as the over 251 million registered. Just goes to show how little the powers to be are even looking at the work as its passed on.

I wanted to know the approx number to see how little a percentage show up in Washington next month .

remember anyone fishing only on head or charter boats , dont have to register so they are not included in the 250 thousand number, as they are exempt

[broken bobber]

http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/stories/2012/01/recfish_mrip.html

[Leif]

Eeny, meeny, miny, moe,
Catch a tiger by the toe.
If he hollers, let him go,
Eeny, meeny, miny, moe.

Leif

[Sidewinder]

And sadly ,of those 250000 ,approximately 400 donors to the SSFFF. Captain Adam may know the number of RFA members,im sure its disappointing. Of course its a helluva lot easier to bitch and moan to each other on this site and on the water than dig in and do something. We better wake up,its getting late!

You do realize that some people registered and never went fishing or some went once, why on earth would those people contribute if they went a few times?

Giving money to an organization is great, but actually going to meeting and voicing your opinions are way better. ;)

[Sidewinder]

http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/stories/2012/01/recfish_mrip.html

Forest Darby is an idiot, he works for idiots and they should all be kicked in the balls and vajayjay's! *ly

[hammer4reel]

The Noaa collection for trip data is even more Bullshit. Since im registered with Noaa as a for hire vessel I was surveyed 3 times this past season.
They asked how many times the boat fished, and out of what port.Thats was all the info they wanted.

Never asked How many guys fished, nor what we fished for, or caught.NOT 1 question about a daily catch

[sportfishingusa]

You do realize that some people registered and never went fishing or some went once, why on earth would those people contribute if they went a few times?

Giving money to an organization is great, but actually going to meeting and voicing your opinions are way better. ;)



But why show up? Your financial support is all theyreally need. You think a politician or scientist is going to listen to Joe public. ?? Maybe if he contributes 10-25k or more to his election fund and you have him in your pocket. You support these orgs with money, that money is supposed to help them offset costs to fight for our rights

[AndyS]

What do you want for ............... FREE

Patrol 127 miles of coastline, not including back bays and inlets.

I'll NEVER register !!!

[jmurr711]

WOW! Joey Murr, us PA guys are making up quite a difference!..Now that IS pathetic if they are showing those kind of numbers. So that's how those scientific numbers are achieved!?!?

i have to register twice cause I'm + size

[tautog]

i have to register twice cause I'm + size

But at least we get a double limit.

[jmurr711]

shhhhhuuuussshhhhh lol

[tautog]

Plus, with a doc's note, you can keep out of season fish to promote low fat, high protein, high omega three eating.

[jmurr711]

Plus, with a doc's note, you can keep out of season fish to promote low fat, high protein, high omega three eating.
thats brilliant!

[AndyS]

Let's talk about Whiting, offshore sea bass, weakfish and flounder.

[Duffman]

The Noaa collection for trip data is even more Bullshit. Since im registered with Noaa as a for hire vessel I was surveyed 3 times this past season.
They asked how many times the boat fished, and out of what port.Thats was all the info they wanted.

Never asked How many guys fished, nor what we fished for, or caught.NOT 1 question about a daily catch

Wow! Govt at work and at its finest!

I trailer my POS from ramp to ramp all year and was "surveyed" 8 times last year!

Guess it goes to show ya, there isnt any rhyme or reason to the checking.

Glad I'm a pirate....:rolleyes:

[stevelikes2fish]

Well said Capt!

[Sharkyispy]

i have to register twice cause I'm + size

Plus, with a doc's note, you can keep out of season fish to promote low fat, high protein, high omega three eating.


Joey, same here for my 2X frame:D ..... I like the doctor angle/pitch here!

[mrfritz44]

Sounds like it's time for the state to find a new database analyst. Seems he unioned a full outer join to a left join with a right join and forgot to take distinct values to boot.

..........um, in other words, I think he f'ed up.

Is even half this number feasible?

Fred

[dfish28]

I talked to my friend at NOAA he believes that they have switched the figures from dogfish in one square mile of water at 100' or more depths study

[VdubFishinJC]

the whole system is a flaw