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joeya78
03-16-2010, 07:16 AM
I braise mine in the oven for I fell it loses less flavor that way. Put corned beef brisket, I use the whole brisket because it stays moist, first cut usually will get dry. Put it in a large deep hotel pan, sprinkle with some brown sugar, pickling spice and 2 beers, the cover with water. I take plastic wrap and then 2 pieces of foil to keep the water in. Cook at 400 degrees for 2 hours the take out of oven open carefully and flip brisket over recover and bake for anothe 1-2 hrs. When finished you shoul be able to twist a fork in the center without much resistance. I take out of water and trim whil hot cause the fat just melts off, save the juices to braise your potatoes and cabbage in. peel potatoes and cut cabbage in 1/8's leaving the core in to hold together. Lay in water recover and bake 45minutes- an hr. Slice beef serve with potatoes and cabbage rye bread....Enjoy!
LeftyReeler
03-16-2010, 08:01 AM
Sounds delicious... My wife made it in the crock pot the other night set it and forget it style. Think it cooked for about 6-7 hours low heat potatoes cabbage and carrots were addae for the last 2hours. To die for better than Carnegie Deli and she's no Julia Child
Chris G
03-16-2010, 10:05 AM
Im gonna try it in the slow cooker this year as well with some beef stock & Guinness.
That baked way sounds good too.
I braise mine in the oven for I fell it loses less flavor that way. Put corned beef brisket, I use the whole brisket because it stays moist, first cut usually will get dry. Put it in a large deep hotel pan, sprinkle with some brown sugar, pickling spice and 2 beers, the cover with water. I take plastic wrap and then 2 pieces of foil to keep the water in. Cook at 400 degrees for 2 hours the take out of oven open carefully and flip brisket over recover and bake for anothe 1-2 hrs. When finished you shoul be able to twist a fork in the center without much resistance. I take out of water and trim whil hot cause the fat just melts off, save the juices to braise your potatoes and cabbage in. peel potatoes and cut cabbage in 1/8's leaving the core in to hold together. Lay in water recover and bake 45minutes- an hr. Slice beef serve with potatoes and cabbage rye bread....Enjoy!
Thanks Joey. We are not Irish but I cannot remember a year since childhood that we did not have corned beef, cabbage, boiled potatoes and carrots.
We never added beer and we always cooked it on top of the stove, so I have to try your way.
Thanks again, Leif
sea nymph
03-16-2010, 05:35 PM
Hey Lefty - could you share that receipe? Sounds too easy!
LeftyReeler
03-16-2010, 05:54 PM
She is making it again tonight as Im out for "work" tomorrow evening with the fellas :rolleyes: I will get specifics for ya and post later tonight or tomorrow am. It was pretty easy, water, pickled spices and the potatoe/carrot/cabbage combo...It was quite delish!:D
Top of the stove for me......my Irish born admin (RIP Kay) told me years ago that corned beef is American, not Irish, but she made it real good.....she always used first cut, a dollop of vodka added, potatoes and cabbage.......I prefer the Savoy cabbage....picked up my first cuts today at Lutz's butcher shop in Union....can't wait!:p
TAB95
03-16-2010, 08:46 PM
MGM good info for Leif, Corned Beef is actually a Jewish cut of meat, cured and boiled aka Irish style. The 1st Irish immigrants settled on the Lower East Side of Manhattan, a Jewish area and the cheapest cut of meat was the brisket and a once a year tasty tradition was born.
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AJFISH13
03-17-2010, 07:59 AM
I actually never have carrots on St. Pattys day. However, I always have had corned beef, cabbage, and potatoes along with soda bread.
LeftyReeler
03-17-2010, 11:34 AM
Quick n Dirty in the slow cooker...(well not that quick;) )
1 slab of C-Beef (make sure you anticipate winter shrinkage so get enough if your gonna feed more than two people or find a decent size cut)
2.5 Cups of Water
5 Carrots (cut as desired) I usually buy the baby carrots and use the bag
2 heads of cabbage
4-6 Golden Potatoes quartered skin on (give a good wash)
1 BEER - ale of choice of course - my avatar speaks for itself - Killians/Bass/Harp are also nice substitutes
Bottle/Jar of Pickling Spice
3 Bay leaves
Handfull of cloves
Salt and Peppa to taste
In the slow cooker add CB, Carrots, and Potatoes, roughly half the jar of pickling spice, 1 Beer, water and Salt and Pepper to taste. (Cb should be immersed in liquid add more beer or water to accomplish) Heat on low for 8 hours. DO NOT KEEP OPENING THE LID- everytime you do this you will prob need to add like 15-20mins so set it and forget it!! After about 6 hours add the cabbage and turn the CB and rotate all the veggies. By about hour 8 the fat should almost skim off the meat and the meat should be able to be broken apart with a fork. Serve with tons of guiness, Shrimpman Rye :D , and Irish Soda bread. Post meal: Sleep on the couch or several feet from significant other, contents may be highly flamable.:eek:
Happy St. Pattys to all -- DONT BE A D$&K - DONT DRINK N DRIVE!
june181901
03-17-2010, 02:05 PM
AJ 13: Spoken like a true Irishman "never eat carrots with corned beef". The color orange is totally verboten on this day.
Erin Go Bragh!:)
joeya78
03-17-2010, 03:58 PM
Quick n Dirty in the slow cooker...(well not that quick;) )
1 slab of C-Beef (make sure you anticipate winter shrinkage so get enough if your gonna feed more than two people or find a decent size cut)
2.5 Cups of Water
5 Carrots (cut as desired) I usually buy the baby carrots and use the bag
2 heads of cabbage
4-6 Golden Potatoes quartered skin on (give a good wash)
1 BEER - ale of choice of course - my avatar speaks for itself - Killians/Bass/Harp are also nice substitutes
Bottle/Jar of Pickling Spice
3 Bay leaves
Handfull of cloves
Salt and Peppa to taste
In the slow cooker add CB, Carrots, and Potatoes, roughly half the jar of pickling spice, 1 Beer, water and Salt and Pepper to taste. (Cb should be immersed in liquid add more beer or water to accomplish) Heat on low for 8 hours. DO NOT KEEP OPENING THE LID- everytime you do this you will prob need to add like 15-20mins so set it and forget it!! After about 6 hours add the cabbage and turn the CB and rotate all the veggies. By about hour 8 the fat should almost skim off the meat and the meat should be able to be broken apart with a fork. Serve with tons of guiness, Shrimpman Rye :D , and Irish Soda bread. Post meal: Sleep on the couch or several feet from significant other, contents may be highly flamable.:eek:
Happy St. Pattys to all -- DONT BE A D$&K - DONT DRINK N DRIVE!
Hey Lefty, get your own thread...lol only kidding sounds awesome, could us a couple of those beers now
AJFISH13
03-17-2010, 10:41 PM
I'm actually Italian.
Quanman
03-18-2010, 04:45 PM
I do mine in the slow cooker as well. This year I picked up a whole corned beef brisket from Rest. Depot (10.55 lbs.) I separated the cuts and trimmed the fat. Before work I put them in the slow cooker with a Blue Moon the corning spices and water. Set the temp. @ 250 and came home at 4 shut the heat and let them steep. Boiled the cabbage and red potatoes together and it was game on. Of course there was Soda bread, rye bread,and Nathan's Coney Island mustard.
joeya78
03-04-2011, 06:54 PM
bumped this for st patties day
msgold
03-04-2011, 09:16 PM
Cabbage and potatoes should be cooked in corned beef liquid, needs the flavoring of the corned beef to finish this dish off. Great Irish Soda Bread at Pal Park Bakery on Broad Avenue. Have been making the best bread for the last 40 plus years.
joeya78
03-05-2011, 06:23 AM
Cabbage and potatoes should be cooked in corned beef liquid, needs the flavoring of the corned beef to finish this dish off. Great Irish Soda Bread at Pal Park Bakery on Broad Avenue. Have been making the best bread for the last 40 plus years.
very true
Tired of looking at the cod recipe. Let's make some Corned beef!!!
Leif
Life's A Beach
03-10-2011, 06:54 AM
Tired of looking at the cod recipe. Let's make some Corned beef!!!
Leif
You didn't say that, did you??????? Tired of Cod????? ha ha ha
Yo HONEY...........this ain't gefilte fish!
'Honey, give me a corned beef sandwich with a schmere of hot mustard' oye ve
frugalfisherman
03-10-2011, 08:33 AM
Corned beef marked down to 99 cents after next week. Get several for the freezer. Corned beef sandwiches for fluking all summer.
Chris G
03-10-2011, 10:20 AM
Best way I found is to make the corned beef in the slow cooker with beef stock, guinness, garlic, little ACV & the pickling spice that comes with the beef. Let it go for about 8 hours.
Remove the corned beef & transfer the cooking liquid into a pot on the stove top & boil the rest in there. Cut the cabbage in 4, and stick wooden skewers through the quarters so it stays together. You can also quarter, parboil then roast the potatoes too instead of straight boiling. Makes them nice & crispy.
fin_s_guy
03-12-2011, 08:48 AM
Top of the stove for me......my Irish born admin (RIP Kay) told me years ago that corned beef is American, not Irish, but she made it real good.....she always used first cut, a dollop of vodka added, potatoes and cabbage.......I prefer the Savoy cabbage....picked up my first cuts today at Lutz's butcher shop in Union....can't wait!:p
Town I grew up in (5 points area), and my mother would take me and my brothers to Lutz's all the time. Didn't appreciate it until I was older....but good to hear they are still going strong. Might have to drop in soon to reminisce...and grab a steak or four.
Fin~S
:cool:
Life's A Beach
03-13-2011, 12:46 PM
Why do you put beer in the corned beef????????????
I've made beer battered fish before and "no" why the beer is used in the batter but in a cured/pickled beef brisket???
tropics
03-13-2011, 04:59 PM
Why do you put beer in the corned beef????????????
I've made beer battered fish before and "no" why the beer is used in the batter but in a cured/pickled beef brisket???
Beer is the best meat tenderizer going, you could cook a boot it would come out tender.:)
shrimpman steve
03-15-2011, 08:45 AM
whats wrong with gefilte fish:D
Life's A Beach
03-15-2011, 12:55 PM
Beer is the best meat tenderizer going, you could cook a boot it would come out tender.:)
saying it Richie doesn't ANSWER my question. HOW does beer tenderize meat? the yeast? the hops? certainly NOT the alcohol as it cooks off in the first couple minutes.
and I've heard coca cola is the best tenderizer going???? but I aint' putting it on my steaks
Reelron
03-15-2011, 04:10 PM
saying it Richie doesn't ANSWER my question. HOW does beer tenderize meat? the yeast? the hops? certainly NOT the alcohol as it cooks off in the first couple minutes.
and I've heard coca cola is the best tenderizer going???? but I aint' putting it on my steaks
I use Coca cola in my homemade BBQ sauce and put it on my steaks & beer can chicken. Don't know if it helps tenderize the meat but it sure do taste good! Sometimes I switch off and use Diet Dr. Pepper and it is even better.
PocketFisherman
03-15-2011, 05:32 PM
I use Coca cola in my homemade BBQ sauce and put it on my steaks & beer can chicken. Don't know if it helps tenderize the meat but it sure do taste good! Sometimes I switch off and use Diet Dr. Pepper and it is even better.
Why switch off? Wouldn't you want it to be "even better" all the time.
Low and slow = tender. Just did lamb shanks 4 hours at 300 under a gallon of wine, beef and veal stock. Silly tender and delicious.
Beer? I could never figure it out either.
tropics
03-15-2011, 05:36 PM
saying it Richie doesn't ANSWER my question. HOW does beer tenderize meat? the yeast? the hops? certainly NOT the alcohol as it cooks off in the first couple minutes.
and I've heard coca cola is the best tenderizer going???? but I aint' putting it on my steaks
I believe the way Beer foams when added to the meat, expands the cells making it tender, so I would say the yeast.
As for the Cola I use it as a marinade to tenderize brisket before smoking..
Reelron
03-16-2011, 09:38 AM
Why switch off? Wouldn't you want it to be "even better" all the time.
Low and slow = tender. Just did lamb shanks 4 hours at 300 under a gallon of wine, beef and veal stock. Silly tender and delicious.
Beer? I could never figure it out either.
I prefer the diet Dr. Pepper as I am diabetic. Some prefer the Coke, especially if I use the Cola that from Mexico. It is made with cane sugar rather than corn syrup and it seems o cook down thicker & sweeter. I am nothing if not accommodating to my friends. :p
And yes, low & slow is the way to go!
Chris G
03-18-2011, 10:09 PM
:cool:
It's that time again!
Leif
bunker dunker
03-16-2012, 01:42 PM
put corned beef in pan,have a few pints.then add 2 cans of beer and have a
3 finger jamesons on the rocks.now add patatos,have a pint.then add cabage
and have another pint.leave the rest for the mrs and head to the coach for a nap.;)
joeya78
03-12-2013, 07:37 AM
I had to post this for tradition now.lol every year when this goes up it's almost fishing time
tropics
03-12-2013, 07:57 AM
saying it Richie doesn't ANSWER my question. HOW does beer tenderize meat? the yeast? the hops? certainly NOT the alcohol as it cooks off in the first couple minutes.
and I've heard coca cola is the best tenderizer going???? but I aint' putting it on my steaks
Mike I did a search and beer is one of the best.
Results
Beer: Great for adding flavor but beer also contains alpha acids and tannins so it’s a workhorse when it comes to tenderizing meats. Marinate for at least an hour before grilling.
Cola: Marinate steak in Coke (not diet) for a minimum of 30 minutes and up to 24 hours. Why does it work? The acid content.
GDubya07
03-13-2013, 02:19 PM
Sounds delicious... My wife made it in the crock pot the other night set it and forget it style. Think it cooked for about 6-7 hours low heat potatoes cabbage and carrots were addae for the last 2hours. To die for better than Carnegie Deli and she's no Julia Child
Better than Carnegie Deli - WOW - she must read the boards or someone wants to go Fishing ???
GDubs-:cool:
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